| ▲ | Barrin92 2 hours ago |
| That's arguably the worst argument given that the author has no special authority over the interpretation of the work. Heinlein with his increasingly militaristic views wrote Starship Troopers as a sincere story, but Paul Verhoeven showed quite compellingly that it might make for better satire. |
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| ▲ | falcor84 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| That's actually an ironic example, seeing how so many (maybe most) viewers took the intended satire at face value, essentially looping all the way back to Heinlein's intent. |
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| ▲ | pessimizer 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | The best satire is always convincing to its targets, because it doesn't misrepresent their positions. The Prince may be satire; who knows what was in Machiavelli's head. | | |
| ▲ | username332211 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Doesn't the guy have another book - The Discourses on Livy, that confirms the general gist of The Prince? (i.e. autocracies are horrible, to be a successful autocrat you need to be brutal and ruthless) | |
| ▲ | FrustratedMonky 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Exactly. Even today, a lot of satire aimed at the 'right', viewed from the 'right's perspective is not realized as satire and is viewed like someone is trying to make a real point. They can't tell it is satire. |
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| ▲ | BoingBoomTschak 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Didn't Verhoeven famously not read the book? Hard to call it "satire" then, "straw man" might be more accurate. |