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sitzkrieg a day ago

it's almost like everything matching the pi footprint is severely overpriced!

motorest a day ago | parent | next [-]

There's a silver lining in raspberry pi and it's clones being so relatively expensive: they create a market and demand for hackable devices. In an age with so much pressure to plug every single digital hole, these devices bring some much needed market pressure to the opposite direction.

TeMPOraL 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Or, put another way: to have electronics so cheap today, we're sacrificing empowerment technology could give us. We have dirt cheap supercomputers in our pocket, but what for? They're just overspecced entertainment machines.

Tepix 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The original Raspberry Pi Zero was a good deal at $5 or even at $10. Too bad it was always poorly available and mostly bundled with overpriced dongles, power supplies, SD cards etc.

numpad0 32 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

From what I've read online somewhere, Zero was a loss leader product made with input from Eric Schmidt, intended to be sold along attractive accessories. The Pi Foundation did try briefly but wasn't able to come up with the accessories, leading to that poor availability and WH variants that made little sense.

dspillett 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The poor avaialbility was largely due to the great pricing: small commercial users scooped them up in the largest quanitites that they could because they were so competative against other options both in terms of pricce and having the advantage of decent support¹ unlike other inexpensive SoCs. Max-per-customer limits imposed by some distributors were not hard to get around. That meant it was difficult for the individual tinkerers that they were aimed at to get hold of them. And once an availability gap was spotted in the market the scalpers crowded in, so even those commercial users had trouble getting them at RRP.

If the current models were any cheaper, that might happen again. It is one of those places where the infamous “what the market will bare” works against us: unless you are buying in bulk you have the choice between paying more or having no availability at all.

People are willing to pay more the rPi units because of the support¹ and reliability². I know I am, last time I wanted a small unit like that I went straight for an rPi without even looking at the other options that might have been cheaper.

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[1] official + community

[2] While not perfect in that regard, no supplier is, and the Pis do seem to do better than others in that regard, especially when compared to anything noticable less expensive.

skeezyjefferson 5 hours ago | parent [-]

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bigiain 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Gotta pay for the cop doing surveillance device r&d somehow...

https://www.theregister.com/2022/12/09/rpi_maker_in_residenc...

cultofmetatron 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

what you're generally paying for is support and community. havin people you can ask questions and knowing there's a good chance that soneone out there has both seen your issue and knows a fix is extremely valuable and worth the money if you're just trying to put together a small one off project.

DrewADesign 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I like the picos. I think there’s a lot of bang for your buck in there for making little devices and prototyping.

tkfoss 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Isn't Orange Pi Zero already sold at cost of material & labor?