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attila-lendvai a day ago

didn't you just explain the USD game? (fleecing the poor worldwide through inflation...) stablecoins don't change much in this.

jcfrei a day ago | parent | next [-]

Having access to USD is still a lot better than whatever local currency most of these countries have. All those without any real central bank independence (though FED independence has become more questionable in the US as well).

scotty79 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Aren't they sort of printing new dollars privately accelerating the fleecing? Or am I wrong?

toast0 a day ago | parent [-]

Not anymore than a USD deposit account. Just with extra steps.

JumpCrisscross a day ago | parent [-]

> Not anymore than a USD deposit account

These typically pay interest. (Or have retail servicing costs attached.)

toast0 a day ago | parent | next [-]

Oh yeah, if you get a USD savings account from major nationwide banks you'll be getting exciting interest rates of up to 0.02% [1], assuming you have a 'relationship bonus'. BofA gets up to 0.04% [2], with the right tiers.

[1] https://www.chase.com/personal/savings/interest-savings/inte...

[2] https://www.bankofamerica.com/deposits/savings/savings-accou...

1oooqooq 21 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

not anymore, this is not guaranteed in the "app age". and the interest was always negligible.

bilbo0s a day ago | parent | prev [-]

...fleecing the poor worldwide...stablecoins don't change much in this

Just Devil's Advocate, but isn't that a reason not to use stablecoins? I mean, I can participate in the fleecing of the poor without changing anything at all apparently.

scotty79 a day ago | parent [-]

It's a reason not to use dollars in any form if you are outside of US (and probably inside as well).

gus_massa a day ago | parent [-]

Usually the local money is even worst. (Hi from Argentina! Not so bad this year so far...)

ethbr1 a day ago | parent | next [-]

This is the worry of globally-available USD stablecoins.

By swapping the volatility from crypto to lower USD volatility, they effectively create a funnel from riskier currencies into dollars.

Which is the same state that previously existed... except now facilitated by the crypto industry's global accessibility/UX and with less international regulation.

Blessing USD stablecoins at the US federal level was a smart move (from the US-perspective) as it creates a much bigger demand for dollars, and if the US didn't do it then China or OPEC would have eventually gotten around to it as an end-run around dollar hegemony.

Winners:

   - Crypto industry (more volume to skim)
   - US Treasury (more demand for debt)
Losers:

   - Countries with less-stable currencies (lose further control of monetary policy)
   - China / OPEC (miss opportunity to push dedollarization further)
TBD:

   - Money laundering (once volume grows, KYC and traceability will follow)
vid 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Is it really "usually?" I think that people often think of the worse cases (Argentina, etc). Looking at https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/FP.CPI.TOTL.ZG?most_rec..., the US is at 103, there are 102 countries with worse inflation, and 215 with better. From https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/wld/wor..., the Global Average Inflation rate for 2023 was 5.7%, more than the US but not out of control.

I don't know what the effect is called, but suddenly some unrest in some country or inflation in another calls for creating a whole new money system. It seems unreasonable and I'm a bit suspicious of where it comes from.

attila-lendvai a day ago | parent | prev [-]

sure, but there's something twisted in ripping off e.g. poor africans from the other side of the world...

sure, it couldn't happen without the local warlords, but still...