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ivan_gammel 2 days ago

There’s no such clause in current version (and it’s article 7, not 8).

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/treaty/char_2012/oj/eng

phkamp 2 days ago | parent [-]

And now you overlooked article 52 ?

It's really very simple: NO human rights are absolute.

ivan_gammel a day ago | parent | next [-]

I overlooked nothing, just pointed out that you are referring to a wrong document. But since you mention article 52... it cannot be taken out of context of the whole title VII. Yes, human rights are not absolute. It does not mean that they can be restricted arbitrarily. In case of digital surveillance there are already some legal precedents in EU (I know that in EU precedents are not binding, but they may serve as indication of possible decisions). E.g. in Germany installing spyware is now allowed only to investigate serious crimes, according to recent decision of the Constitutional Court.

0x01FE a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Could you link the version you're reading. I don't see anything saying this in the version linked above. It reads to me like "there may be limitations put on these rights but only to protect other rights, and even then the essence/spirit of the law should be maintained".

phkamp a day ago | parent [-]

And that's precisely it.

Your right to encrypted communication, if there is such a thing, ends well before it is used to stage a coup or plan a bank robbery.