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ionwake 2 days ago

Denmark, is a great country, however even I notice problems here as there are in other countries. Corruption and poor decisions. For example a local government office has a brand new facade finish ( amongst other work) that has taken about 4 years to do, its an entire building. Tall buildings are banned in Denmark so its actually surprisingly imposing. Trouble is, they did not use the tax funds to improve the local school for children. I am not joking, its a literal portacabin. Yes there are normal schools in buildings, but the main primary school for this village, ( and bear in mind this is denmark where most things are still carefully constructed and beautiful), is 2 literal portacabins / part of a small modern house, in dire need of upgrading.

Im not saying the new government building is saurons tower, but there was no need to divert funds to improve it, it was just one of the buildings in a non descript village. I wouldnt normally care, but I know someone who goes to the primary school, and apparently it was a big upset that the funds for it went to this government building instead.

Before anyone thinks I am being mean to DK, a very similar thing happened in the UK, the local library that used to be in a large building got moved to essentially a backwater dark room in a terrible part of town, and the main building converted to bigger nicer officer for the local government.

Its a problem I am seeing all over europe.

Just sat badly with me.

EDIT > WTF everyone always so touchy. Everyone just relax ok this is a public forum.

Svip 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

> Tall buildings are banned in Denmark so its actually surprisingly imposing.

False. Buildings higher than 5 stories require municipal council approval (whereas normally it's a functional approval, not a political one), but that's only in Copenhagen. Other municipal councils do not have the same restrictions, and there are plenty of examples of tall buildings in Denmark.

The restriction in Copenhagen is historical, due to the fires that consumed the city; so to increase fire safety, buildings were height restricted. That most of Denmark otherwise don't have a lot of tall buildings is primarily due to a lack of demand.

ionwake 2 days ago | parent [-]

I know bro I am just keeping it simple for people who arent danish.

Thank you for the elaboration though

tokai 2 days ago | parent [-]

I don't get the point of your comment. Some random municipality construction case has nothing to do with this story.

ambicapter 2 days ago | parent [-]

I see the point very easily? It's about directing government funds to improving the work lives of the officials (the ones who decide where the money goes) instead of towards the education of their children, which most people would agree should be a much higher priority. It's an example of government working for themselves, not working for the people, as is their remit.

tokai 2 days ago | parent [-]

You believe that because you don't understand budgeting in danish municipalities. There are several bins of funds, and dictates from the state on how much can be used on what. Money from a construction budget cannot be used on schools, and so on. Its a much more complicated piece of bureaucracy, and not something that is relatable to a minister of justice going off in the deep end.

ionwake 2 days ago | parent [-]

Why was everyone upset then? Why was it in the press? Why are you talking as if you know anything about it? Why are you so upset about it? I literally have no idea why you are upset that someone brought up something that bothered them on a public forum. Are you working for the Danish gov in some capacity and terrified of any criticism. Like wtf man., its just a comment , soon this thread will go away and you can get back to your gov funded cupcakes or whatever it is ur protecting. You just attract attention by being so touchy.

EDIT > I removed the bit that said where it was ok? relax

tokai 2 days ago | parent [-]

You seem be the one that needs to calm down. I'm just straightening things out. You shared an anecdote about governance in Denmark, that is not related to the current discussion. Don't get riled up about something you clearly isn't that clever at.

ionwake a day ago | parent [-]

No need for the ad hominem attack at the end there but ok point taken all good

yownie a day ago | parent [-]

learn to read the room better. this is a discussion about a specific topic, not a place for your random anecdotes.

you didn't use the claim of ad hominem correctly.

graemep 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As I read through the first two paragraphs of your comment I was thinking "that sounds like the sort of thing that happens here in the UK" and I have often though there is a general deterioration in the Europe (and as far as I know north America too).

Then I found you seem to think much the same.

bazoom42 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Tall buildings are banned in Denmark

This of course not true.

vonneumannstan a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>Denmark, is a great country, however even I notice problems here as there are in other countries. Corruption and poor decisions. For example a local government office has a brand new facade finish ( amongst other work) that has taken about 4 years to do, its an entire building.

I'm sorry but when my own president is hard at work enriching himself and his family to the tune of Billions of dollars at the expense of the citizens here this sounds like a joke.

sleepybrett a day ago | parent [-]

I don't know if it's 'corruption' or just a different sort of 'common sense' that needs to be corrected. There is a reason that 'if you've got nothing to hide why not consent to the search' is ages old and still present.

You don't always have to assign corrupt intent to people who may just be ignorant.

arcfour 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Maybe Denmark isn't as beautiful as you describe and you are simply biased.

bondarchuk 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

The scandinavian countries are widely upheld as some of the best and most civilized countries in the world second only to japan and switzerland. Sure countries are complicated affairs and we can bicker for years about these kinds of opinions, but it's not some kind of weirdo niche to think denmark is a far above-average country.

arcfour 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

But several not so pretty aspects were just pointed out in detail.

Perhaps they're just countries, with their own problems and benefits, just like everyone else.

Or, should I just continue to parrot a delusional fantasy of Scandinavian countries being the promised land, with no problems whatsoever?

bondarchuk a day ago | parent [-]

He literally just said "Denmark is a great country", relax man..

arcfour 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Relax?

lnsru 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

They were. Currently I would avoid Sweden: https://www.gisreportsonline.com/r/sweden-immigrants-crisis/ Other European countries will follow. And yeah, I am against uncontrolled immigration. That’s probably the single way to destroy developed country very quickly.

vbezhenar 2 days ago | parent [-]

What do you mean "uncontrolled"? Surely EU have border services, so almost all immigration is controlled.

lnsru a day ago | parent [-]

I don’t want to open this can of worms. It is just not controlled.

PeppySteppy a day ago | parent [-]

You are spreading typical AfD misinformation

ionwake a day ago | parent | next [-]

I am an immigrant, and not "white" depending on who you ask. I was easily able to travel between schengen countries without having my ID checked ( I am lawful EU citizen). So in answer to your question no, border controls are not tight. Depends on the day.

HAVING said that I also agree with you that EU borders ARE mostly controlled.

I only saying this because I dont like accusations being thrown around, as it inhibits public discourse the ability for poeople to learn vis discussion, EVEN if he sounds like a nutter.

lnsru a day ago | parent | prev [-]

I have some statistics for you: https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/235965/umfrag...

It’s time to talk about elephant in the room instead of screaming “you’re nazi!”

frm88 20 hours ago | parent [-]

These are the future adults that pay your pension. Or do you have a more efficient idea on how to counter population decline?

I have some statistics for you: https://infografik.io/kartiert-europas-bevolkerungsruckgang-... (German)

lnsru 19 hours ago | parent [-]

The thing is that I have no new citizens around me in white collar positions. I don’t see them in production hall downstairs either. This is valid for my last 3 jobs. It’s dumb statistics. My friends and ex-colleagues see the same situation. I guarantee, these future adults will have no positive impact for my pension. They will only consume the exorbitant high taxes I pay in Germany right now. And I may work until 75…

So no more refugees please, qualified foreigners welcome. But there is only one problem - these 5 million fresh refugees made Germany super unattractive for qualified foreigners. Now you can call me a nazi.

ionwake 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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cuntymaccunto 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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nickslaughter02 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> Denmark, is a great country

Is it? From the outside it looks like a nanny state where every piece of individualism is removed.