| ▲ | teekert a day ago |
| Ok, this is weird right? '“It’s just so upsetting,” says Judith, whose cookie recipe was passed down by her mother.' Why pass some boxed commercial mix through your family? Maybe I have too much Italian in me (I'm not Italian, just love their mindset when it comes to cooking) but that's like passing some cheap plastic kitchen utensil down the family, instead of your cast iron skillet. Just learn to bake properly based on flour, milk, sugar and eggs. Even my 9 year old makes muffins this way. I still don't understand why people buy "pancake mix" for example, pancakes are 250 gr flour, 500 ml of milk and 2 eggs. That's about 1/3rd the price of a mix. |
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| ▲ | asciimov a day ago | parent | next [-] |
| For Judith it’s about the nostalgia of being a girl and having her mother make these cookies with this method. Judith’s mom was likely over-worked and buying a box was a timesaver. Who cares if it’s not “properly” made? |
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| ▲ | teekert a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Ok yeah I get that. It's certainly a shame for Judith. But companies come and go. They change recipes all the time. They do research to make everything as cheap as possible, you may never know it but I knew someone working at Unilever and the Mars bar for example constantly evolves, and let me tell you it's not because they want to give you the best Mars bar, it's just "we found a cheaper supplier for X" or "If we replace X by Y we save Z, and you don't really taste it". I like our Dutch tomatoes: Big, deep red and absolutly tasteless. Now they sell "taste tomatoes", I'm not kidding, they're much nicer. Last much longer on a shelve as well. Many, many products have changed and disappeared over the decades. I don't see anything worth reporting in the piece, except for "putting attention on shrinkflation". Which is fine of course, but Judith should know better, we all should. | | |
| ▲ | SamoyedFurFluff a day ago | parent [-] | | Hey man, maybe practice some empathy. Unexpected change is hard. Unexpected change from a childhood standard really sucks. How could Judith possibly “know better” and ahead of time detach from core memories of her time with her mom like a psychopath? | | |
| ▲ | teekert a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Like I said, it's not nice for Judith. Idk, maybe it's a cultural thing. I just can't imagine putting any value in a boxed mix. It's just seen as the low value stuff here, the fake food, unthinkable to pass down a generation. Sorry. It's like Christopher Walken having a cheap "won at the fancy fair" watch up his *. Btw, I used to get chocolate sigarettes for Sinterklaas (dutch Santa Claus). It's a core memory, yeah, they're gone, but it's very different from my mother's Chinese tomato soup. I can still make that "from scratch". | |
| ▲ | account42 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | We're not telling off Judith, were discussing this on an entirely unrelated forum. Any empathy displayed here would be performative. |
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| ▲ | account42 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Judith should take this as a generational learning opportunity to provide her children and grandchildren with memories that don't depend on a corporation not altering their products. |
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| ▲ | account42 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > pancakes are 250 gr flour, 500 ml of milk and 2 eggs. If you're too poor to afford an appropriate amount of eggs maybe. |
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| ▲ | kortilla a day ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Do you mill your own flour? Or do you just use some boxes commercial mix like a filthy commoner? |
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| ▲ | teekert a day ago | parent | next [-] | | I don't mill my flour of course, I do get it at a mill which does, because I bake a lot of bread and 5 kg bags are cheaper. That said, if you take my pancake example, you literally replace the flour with more expensive pancake mix. Ok, fine, in some mizes there are dried eggs and milk protein or something, and you just need water. But you could even make pancakes with water instead of milk and they're fine. With cookies it's similar, most baking is just different amounts of sugar, flour, eggs, butter, milk/water. Maybe some vanilla sugar here and there. It's really not that hard. Hey, and now you can start to experiment with banana and almond flour, and make it a bit less unhealthy/more nutritious. Or make pancakes with oats and banana, also nice and a lot more fiber. Treat yourself to a nice kitchen machine with the money you save and become much faster as well. Learning some basic, proper cooking and baking should just be part of raising kids imo. I know it sounds snobbish, but it's really not rocket science. Imo we are being scammed by all these companies selling products that are just as much effort, but more expensive and less healthy (usually more additives). They just prey on our lack of knowledge with their recipes on the packaging and their products conveniently put at eye-height, whereas basic stuff like flour is always at the lower shelves. | |
| ▲ | lurking_swe a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The other weird thing here is passing that recipe along at all. People are impressed with boxed mixes? It’s just weird to me. It doesn’t even make sense. Buying the individual ingredients is more versatile. You spend less money, and have extra eggs, flour, etc left over that can be used for other recipes. And then it actually feels more homemade too. Saving 20 seconds (measuring and prepping 3 ingredients for a “mix”) in order to end up with less tasty food is illogical. *edit* ok never mind there is some reason to the madness:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45246000 | |
| ▲ | dmesg a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Mill my own flour? I'd call that the "Carl Sagan fallacy" for the lack of a better name. We don't have to "[first] invent the universe from scratch to make apple pie". Even if that is what he literally said. | |
| ▲ | paintbox a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | You have been able to buy milled flour for thousands of years, and will probably be able to for as long as there is civilization. Betty Crocker would be lucky to survive another hundred years. |
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