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sigmoid10 a day ago

Why do people bother with new theories in this space? Just to throw shade at other countries' political systems? It is perfectly clear what caused China's rise and why it is a historic and geopolitical exception that will not translate to any other country today. And it's certainly not their authoritarian political system that deserves praise, even though right-wingers in the west love foreign autocrats these days and want to bring that shit here.

anovikov a day ago | parent [-]

So what is your theory of it?

Also, how is this an exception? Didn't many the other Southeast Asian countries do the same, with the result being less remarkable just because of their smaller size?

sigmoid10 20 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This is not "my theory." This is pretty standard historian stuff. It's a combination of cold war shenanigans from the US, globalisation and favourable demographics. You can easily find this by looking at any source that is not pushing a certain political agenda. Here's a pretty good summary that is not particularly tainted: https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2025/06/27/chinas-rise-is-an-exce...

fspeech 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Sorry I have to say that the cited writeup is disappointingly shallow. For example it doesn't explain why other countries with equal or better access to the Western markets didn't all industrialize, so globalization may be necessary but is clearly not sufficient. Also its narrative on Chinese agriculture ignores the fact that Chinese agriculture also developed rapidly both in production and in value of output. It became the largest importer of food because the consumption of protein skyrocketed outpacing almost every other country.

hshdhdhj4444 20 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah it’s not clear what China achieved was qualitatively significantly superior than Japan or Korea’s achievements.

I think China’s biggest source of fortune was that their rise coincided with the unraveling of American democracy, which arguably began with the 2020 election, but was well and truly set in motion when American leaders exploited 9/11 and lied to the public to start a war in Iraq.

BrawnyBadger53 16 hours ago | parent [-]

China's rise started well before 2020