I am sick of people raising this developer's mental issues. This is 2025, we should be sympathetic and encouranging to any human being struggling with mental issues, helping them get through or at least not trip them or sideline them. GrapheneOS is undeniably a project of great value, if you don't like something about it's development raise it and stop there as you would do with any project. Stop the "Graphene doesn't have X feature but the lead dev is nuts so I don't touch it" meme.

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stoltzmann 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

This is besides the point. The lead dev started going on a rant when facing a comment as simple as "this is informative, and unfortunate" on a video that he didn't like, and is unable to parse that statement as anything else but a personal attack at him. He threatened banning Louis over that unless he completely gave in. You can see the whole discussion in the video linked in the post above.

It's a communication issue at the core, and always doubling down is not making it any better.

It portrays the whole project as being unreliable.

	▲	scheeseman486 2 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Posting "this is informative, and unfortunate" as a comment to a video with a bunch of inflammatory accusations is giving credence to and expressing approval at the substance of it's content. So no, it isn't as "simple" as the issue being only the literal content of that comment. The context matters.
	▲	gtsop 2 days ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		I know the whole story in depth and you keep iterating over the same thing. If this person has indeed mental issues, to publicly expose it in a degrading light does not help him, or anyone else really. If he doesn't have mental issues then all this discussion is unjustly defaming a person and damaging perception around mental issues. Either way this discussion is bad. You are the one portraying the project as unreliable. I only judge GrapheneOS by the actual output being delivered, the code and and the binary that is. And if you go down the route of validating the output based on his behaviour then i would flip it on you. I would much rather use an OS developed by a paranoid guy who thinks everyone hunts them. I'd bet it's more secure. But this is silly-talk. What matters is the deliverable. Has the project given any evidence of being unreliable or not teustworthy?
	▲	other8026 a day ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		As someone else pointed out, it's not just the comment. There's context you're either ignoring because it's inconvenient for you, or you don't know because you couldn't be bothered to learn more about it. The video is harassment content, plain and simple. It's filled with disinformation and he lied about not using GrapheneOS moving forward. The developer was swatted multiple times, then when upset with Rossmann he tried to talk to him about his support for harassment content (the swatter was a fan), and instead of being a decent human being, Rossmann made a video of it while it was happening.

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matheusmoreira 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Completely agree. Writing off the project's numerous benefits on the basis of one missing feature is irrational. Immediately moving on to attack him personally by claiming he's mentally ill makes it impossible to assume good faith.

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strcat a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The people calling me insane, delusional, schizophrenic, etc. almost entirely don't believe what they're saying as there's no actual basis for it. All they can do is link to incredibly dishonest harassment content from Louis Rossmann and Henry Fisher where they engage in a monologue pushing fabricated stories. What they show as supposed evidence doesn't at all match their claims and instead they heavily misrepresent it.

Many people enjoy participating in harassment towards an open source developer when they have a disagreement with the project such as our requirements for accepting a pull request for automatic call recording. We've said we won't accept it without showing that it's active so that people are aware calls are being recorded when it's enabled. That's more than enough for some people to participate in harassment.

Hacker News shouldn't be permitting it over and over again.

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joemazerino 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

GrapheneOS being in use by people and orgs with a high security requirement dictates an organizational review. OPSEC extends beyond just cyber capabilities.