Idk anything about this drama, but "frustrated" is generous interpretation. Dude left an comment on a YouTube video and the guy freaked out on him. Seems like exactly the type of behavior he's claiming isn't real. I just want to know the OS I'm installing on my phone isn't at the whims of anyone who could pull a "colours/faker" stunt. But hopefully the project has governance and control that no single person could that that anyways (otherwise it'd be hard to calm it's a "secure" alternative)

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other8026 a day ago | parent | next [-]

The basic thing is that the developer had been swatted multiple times right before that video. Swatted by a fan of the YouTubers who made the video that Louis commented on.

But the targeted update thing isn't even possible on GrapheneOS. The update server is basically a basic web server. The updates are stored on the servers and the update client downloads them. All update files follow the same naming system and the update client downloads updates using that system.

The update client never sends any IDs either.

So if GrapheneOS can't get unique IDs, then how can targeting be done? It's just not possible.

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scheeseman486 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you don't know anything about the "drama" then maybe you should avoid jumping to conclusions.

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ruszki 2 days ago | parent [-]

I don’t think that you need to know anything about the drama to know that there is no context in which responses showed in the video are fine. Did strcat apologise for it?

I don’t understand these GitHub links either. None of them which I’ve seen bad at all. I don’t understand the one with strcat’s post history either. The comments which are one the first two pages are completely fine.

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scheeseman486 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Rossman was complicit in harassment, harassment (particularly at this scale, driven by their significant viewer base) that would be harmful to literally anyone who would be the target of it. strcat was upset, understandably, and privately communicated that to Rossman who then proceeds to cynically turn it into something to generate more views for his channel.

Apologise for what?

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ruszki 2 days ago | parent [-]

Once again, there is no context in which strcat’s comments to Rossman would be fine which are in the video in full. Repeating a context won’t change this. Even if the main points of strcat is fine, their style was really, really bad, without the possibility of excuse. They got plenty of options for excuse during the conversation, they clearly didn’t use them. The whole conversation just seemingly proved the point of “harassments”.

So I assume they didn’t apologise. Stupidly, further proving the points of “harassments”, which I can imagine exist and probably disproportional, they were just stupid enough to give data points to support them more. For no good reason.

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strcat a day ago | parent [-]

The video you're referencing very clearly exists for the purpose of directing harassment towards me based on fabrications and spin as part of Rossmann's bullying towards me. Nearly all of the claims he makes in the video are lies of misrepresentations, including even the title.

You're supporting someone who very openly engages in libel and bullying towards me while he was actively publicly using and catering to Kiwi Farms. The content is very clearly aimed at that kind of audience and to make the harassment much worse, which it did, and Rossmann continued to double down on that.

See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45255341.

	▲	ruszki a day ago \| parent [-]
		I reflected only on the comments which you sent to Rossmann; you don’t deny that you sent those AFAIK. I purposefully ignored everything what Rossmann said. As I said, even if you’re right, those comments were mistakes.

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strcat a day ago | parent | prev [-]

It's a fabricated story which you're taking at face value. What Rossmann claims to have been said to him was not said to him. He deliberately misrepresents what was said and the context of him engaging in many months of public and private bullying leading up to it. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45255341.

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strcat a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> Dude left an comment on a YouTube video and the guy freaked out on him.

No, that's part of Rossmann's heavily fabricated story about what happened. The reality is that Rossmann's live stream and video very clearly aimed at directing harassment towards me with spin and fabrications were only a further escalation of his ongoing bullying towards me. His video is self-evidently dishonest bullying and harassment. Even the video title was a lie disproven by his own followers catching him continuing to use GrapheneOS as a daily driver with his important apps and data for many months afterwards. He did eventually move away from it, potentially multiple years later, but his claim to have deleted it was a lie, as were his claims of being scared of us replying to his attacks or targeting him with an update. It was utter nonsense to justify engaging in a massively escalated form of bullying using his community as a weapon to cause harm to someone and try to destroy their life.

Rossmann actively uses Kiwi Farms with a verified account and was very clearly catering to them. He actively seeks their friendship and respect in a thread he was actively using before and after posting the video. He's friendly with the person who posted the harassment and doxxing thread clearly aimed at causing physical harm to me and further propagating fabricated stories/claims about me. Rossmann continued to post jabs towards me and complaints about us on Kiwi Farms following that thread being posted which has acted as a regular reminder to them to keep targeting us. He continues to actively post there and engage with serial harassers.