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010101010101 2 days ago

That’s _definitely not_ the entire point of the show.

mryijum 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Not only is it not the entire point of the show, you'd have a easier time arguing that the point of the show is that the fundamental problems behind mandates like "deal with crime" are not as simple as "get a wiretap."

testdelacc1 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Obviously one of the greatest shows of all time has multiple interwoven themes.

But the literal name of the show should be a clue that Wire taps are important. See how they evolve for one. Gangs are always learning, getting more secure with their communication and making it harder to build a case against them. What worked in Season 1 (pagers) doesn't work in Season 3 (burners). Once Season 3 is over everything about how burners were surveilled is then public record, so criminal gangs switch up once more, making it even harder.

Now if you made a show with all the criminals using encrypted, disappearing messages - that would be basically unbreakable. Which was my point.

LexiMax 2 days ago | parent [-]

The point of the show is that the wiretaps didn't ultimately amount to anything, for reasons that had nothing to do with how good the police work was, and everything to do with politics and the systemic failure of institutions.

A few of the pieces were taken off the board, soon to be replaced by new pieces. But the kings stayed the kings, and the game remained the same.

testdelacc1 2 days ago | parent [-]

Sigh. It is possible for both things to be true.

That wiretaps allowed them to build a meaningful case against the entire drug organisation, with nearly all the drug dealers in jail or dead or out of the game. That’s not nothing. Without wiretaps they would just have been harassing easily replaced corner pawns.

But what you’re saying is partly true as well. Even after taking whole drug organisations down, it is possible to replace them. As long as the demand existed, and the wholesaler existed, new drug organisations would be formed.

I’m surprised that people came out of it thinking that there was no point to any of the police work. Do you really think it would have been better to not touch the drug organisations in any way?