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charcircuit 3 days ago

This kind of mentality is why malware became such a big issue on Windows. It turned out ignoring security and just relying on the user to not be stupid doesn't work. That mistake shouldn't be made again and there is no reason to artificially restrict the audience of an OS to people who don't have "low IQ."

oneshtein 2 days ago | parent [-]

So, your proposition is to remove their ability to install antivirus software, like Google does in Android?

Users know about this problem and know how to mitigate it. Get out of my way, please.

Scrubbed4426 a day ago | parent [-]

No, the goal is to move to a system that doesn't rely on badness enumeration (antivirus) as a primary defense. You can rely on the app sandbox and the security model of the system to keep it in check.

Antivirus scanners are essentially useless on modern mobile OSes because they are limited to accessing the same things a malicious app or file would be.

oneshtein a day ago | parent [-]

Yeah, I have few bricked devices which reached the your goal.

No, I cannot rely on the app sandbox. If someone else controls a device, then this device can be used against me.

Your antivirus, scanner or not, is useless on your device for you.

My antivirus on my device is useful for me. It works fine on GrapheneOS (Pixel 6), but banned by Google on Pixel 5, which is not supported by Google with security updates. WTF?