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pjmlp 3 days ago

It is also relevant, that as proven on FOSDEM corridors full of Apple laptops, most folks only care about some sort of POSIX experience, and couldn't care less about Linux/BSD religion.

So that target audience gets a cool modern experience, without fighting with driver issues and such.

It is also the reason why Microsoft ended up bringing Project Astoria from the ashes into WSL.

UNIX has won, but not as Richard Stallman would have liked to.

kasabali 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

AFAIK Stallman didn't care about UNIX, considering he is more of a LISP guy. GNU targeted UNIX because it was the popular OS at the time.

pjmlp 2 days ago | parent [-]

Kind of,

> Unix is not my ideal system, but it is not too bad. The essential features of Unix seem to be good ones, and I think I can fill in what Unix lacks without spoiling them. And a system compatible with Unix would be convenient for many other people to adopt.

-- https://www.gnu.org/gnu/manifesto.html

drob518 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Nailed it.

bigyabai 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't think Richard Stallman much cares. The first thing every programmer does on a Mac is install GNU software.

pjmlp 3 days ago | parent [-]

Not really.

bigyabai 3 days ago | parent [-]

Sure, I guess. I'd love to meet this "real developer" who doesn't git pull anything to their Mac.

Me, I live in the real world and got dotfiles to clone.

pxc 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Git's not a GNU project.

Fwiw, though, I personally do use a ton of GNU software on any Mac I touch: coreutils, grep, sed, find, parallel, GCC, autotools, make, gdb, Emacs, and maybe some GNU Java stuff for LibreOffice, Bash. Most developers on macOS probably use at least a couple of those.

dwaite 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Because of the heavy push to GPL v3 by GNU, and because Apple’s interpretation of the license’s patent requirements prevented any GPL v3 code use, very few GNU projects remain as part of macOS.

Git is not a GNU project and is GPL v2.

pjmlp 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Hello.

Install everything XCode and use proper UNIX tools already installed.