| ▲ | bboygravity 3 days ago |
| Ah, the good old "think of the children" argument. Does anyone buy that? |
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| ▲ | ipnon 3 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| “Think of the children” is a persistent nemesis of modern civil liberties precisely because people buy it so often! One of the easiest emotional arguments to make is “your children are in danger” because parents have extremely low risk tolerance for the safety of their children. |
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| ▲ | lazide 3 days ago | parent [-] | | Also parents of young children are typically overwhelmed and freaked out, and easy to manipulate. | | |
| ▲ | tesch1 3 days ago | parent [-] | | Don't the parents have a legitimate interest here though? Just being tired does not make them irrational or credulous as seems to be implied here. | | |
| ▲ | lazide 3 days ago | parent [-] | | I take it you’ve never had a sick 18 month old before? Or three under 5? There is a legitimate interest, but subtlety and critical thinking are some of the first things to go out the window. Personally, it completely redefined my concept of ‘exhausted’, though the military veteran family of mine seemed to consider it a not entirely uncommon level of suffering. They were all enlisted though. |
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| ▲ | moi2388 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Perhaps the children who don’t have free access to information anymore. Oh, right.. |
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| ▲ | sofixa 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Yes, especially lots of people with children are terrified that their little darlings will be able to access the best German BDSM content in 4K at an early age. |
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| ▲ | tesch1 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Terrified? Maybe they just calmly rationally don't want them to have access to the best German BDSM content in 4K at an early age? | | |
| ▲ | sofixa 3 days ago | parent [-] | | I was exaggerating a bit for comedic effect. I can completely sympathise with the sentiment. If there was a way to prove one's identity/age online, double anonymously (so both the website doesn't know who you are, and the identity service doesn't know what website is asking) I'd be a 100% for it. It would prevent minors from accessing stuff they're not ready for (on average), and it would limit the amount of bots and foreign interference. | | |
| ▲ | tesch1 3 days ago | parent [-] | | If and only if? The dispute here is balancing people's human right to wank anonymously against the right of parents (and society's?) to limit access to (absurdly) age inappropriate material. What does "ready for" even mean, when is anyone ready for 4k German BDSM. There's also this slippery slope argument that preserving the former right is absolutely necessary to prevent creeping fascism. Which is absurd. Shouldn't it be the responsibility of the wankers to create some palatable solution to the conflict of interests, rather than demand the parents figure out how such wankers can preserve their anonymity? Parenting is necessary for continuation and health of society. 4k German stuff is not. | | |
| ▲ | rangestransform 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Privacy is absolutely necessary for the continuation of western liberal society as we know it, and for society’s constant fight against authoritarianism | | |
| ▲ | sofixa 2 days ago | parent [-] | | > Privacy is absolutely necessary for the continuation of western liberal society as we know it IMO, so is the fight against active hostile foreign or local actors bot flaming on the internet to stoke tensions. These kinds of acts aren't only online (cf. Russia paying Moldovans and Serbs to commit anti-semitic and anti-muslim acts in France to stoke tensions between Jews, Muslims and everyone else), but they are drastically more effective online with the help of social media algorithms. To preserve healthy democracies, something has to be done. > and for society’s constant fight against authoritarianism And it pipes into this one. The people profiting the most from those tensions, which they stoke too, are wannabe authoritarians (cf. Trump). How to fight against them and their tactics without giving them the tools they will abuse once they're into power to shut down dissent? |
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| ▲ | viralpraxis 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | I’m not a parent, so it might be I completely do not understands some important aspects of this due to lack of expirience, but I hope I’ll be more smart than my parents. It was quite easy to google things my parents were silent about, but I still remeber that feeling of guiltiness. It affected me much more than knowing what the bdsm is |
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| ▲ | ACCount37 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Unfortunately, yes. Maybe it'll die off in a generation or two, when cynical millennials and zoomers become the backbone of politics. But for now? "Think of the children" is hilariously transparent to us, but it enjoys moderate support across population, and, much worse, it gets overwhelming support of geriatric politicians. Which is what makes fighting for liberties so hard. |
