I'm still here if you'd like to make an argument. The above rebuttal is not remotely a good faith argument. It appears to be a hope that repeating misinformation will somehow make it an accepted truth.

That might work for circles of low performing political movements, but it doesn't work for those of us interested in a scientific approach to knowledge.

By all means, explain what making guns illegal has actually done for Australia, the whitest country in the world, and the UK, the capital of knife crime.

You're about to prove facts that neither of us want to admit.

I'm a listening scientist. Are you?

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Hikikomori 2 days ago | parent [-]

Nobody was suggesting that it would remove all crime. The racist undertones in your post are evident.

	▲	trimethylpurine a day ago \| parent [-]
		The correlation between lower crime and gun laws is very weak and disproven by countless other examples. The two countries given as proof aren't exceptions to that. Instead they are examples of how lower poverty correlates with lower crime rate. Race isn't a factor, just as gun laws aren't. Pointing out that race isn't a factor is the opposite of racism. Read carefully.