I hate Java because debugging java code is worse than debugging assembly

As a Intellij-user I am more than a little confused. What are features missing from Java's debugging story?

I have mostly heard these complaints from people who haven't used a java ide and/or do not know that jvms allow waiting for a debugger before starting execution (helps with all sorts of spring or whatever errors and boilerplate).

That said, there is a shitload of "enterprise" fuckery in Java, but those Devs would have made a mess of any codebase anyway.

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vips7L 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah this comment is wild to me. Java’s debugging is so good I can debug a remote server from my local machine.

	▲	Tostino 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		Something I've had to do a handful of times against production systems when we absolutely couldn't reproduce an issue locally. Such a great debug ecosystem.

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spreiti 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How much experience do you have working in Java? This statement really surprises me because Java has some of the best in class tools to debug and troubleshoot issues.

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peterashford 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This has to be one of the wrongest opinions I've ever seen on HN. It's mind-bendingly wrong. Java would, IMO, be the easiest programming language in the world to debug. The debugging tools are mature, consistent and extensive.

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throwaway7783 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is really a wild take. Java's debugging support is one of the best out there.

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trollied 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I hate to say it, but this is because you are not a Java developer. It’s very easy to debug.

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pjmlp 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Found out another printf debugger.