>2. Reference to an anti-fascist song most often played by far-left figures, particularly those identifying themselves as "anti-fascist".

Bella Ciao is a groyper meme though. https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0ais7KJXx8Gyd0hsrbakKW

Bella Ciao added to groyper playlist over two years ago.

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TheFreim 3 days ago | parent [-]

An individual remix of a song added to a playlist, which most people have never heard of, multiple years ago does not make it a "groyper meme".

Before the other day when this misinformation campaign began, nobody ever associated the song with groypers. Its always been associated with anti-Fascist, anti-Nazi groups, which contain a completely different set of beliefs. In recent history the only people to ever use the song for political purposes have been left-wing groups: Protestors against the AfD in Germany, communist priest Andrea Gallo, movement against Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil, left-wing protests against Meloni in Italy.

Combining the lack of substantial evidence of association with groypers with the history of the song being used by left-wing movements, in addition to the evidence in my post above and elsewhere, its clear that this cannot be reasonably associated with groypers by any evidence-oriented person.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bella_ciao

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suzzer99 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Here's the shooter in a groyper halloween costume that his sister says is "from some meme": https://imgur.com/XeYByuq

"hey fascist! Catch! Up arrow, right arrow, three down arrow" is a video game reference from a video game called Helldivers 2 that groypers use all the time.

Every bullet casing had a different groyper meme on it. It's either a groyper or a really elaborate groyper false flag. Those are the only two options.

Acting like it's all a coincidence is just spreading disinfo. Thankfully the bots don't make it to HN very often, or this place would be a disaster.

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skyyler 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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	▲	zahlman 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		> Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something.