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lordofgibbons 3 days ago

Gleam has caught my eye for the past year or so, and I'd totally learn it if I didn't believe firmly that we won't be coding by hand within the next 9 months. It'll all be done by LLMs so syntax and ergonomics won't mean too much. At least as soon as LLMs learn to stop being turbo-slop generators.

IshKebab 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

9 months? I mean... 9 years maybe. There's absolutely no way we won't be coding by hand in 9 months, unless the only thing you do is landing pages and CRUD forms.

sgt 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Not even 9 years, I'm thinking 30-40 years.

arcanemachiner 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Never underestimate the ability of the software industry to shit in its own mouth.

buggy6257 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

See you in 9 months then to check back.

tgv 3 days ago | parent [-]

Anthropic's CEO said 6 months, 6 months ago. https://futurism.com/six-months-anthropic-coding

echelon 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> if I didn't believe firmly that we won't be coding by hand within the next 9 months.

LLM-assisted coding is awesome, but it feels like a self-driving style problem.

It's going to take 20 years to get there.

a3w 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Doe LLMs write valid Gleam programs? Trying with ChatGPT three years ago, it did not. Workarounds, like "here is the syntax as a system prompt", put into the prompt I would not consider understanding, as Gleam idioms and patterns will certainly not all fit.

adastra22 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

GP is crazy, but if you are basing your view of what LLMs can do based on ChatGPT 3 years ago, that is just as much out of touch.

perrygeo 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

The entire Gleam language tour (https://tour.gleam.run/everything/) is comprehensive. It contains examples of every language feature and prints to less than 70 pages - easily fits into the context window of any recent LLM.

0x3f 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

You should learn Gleam then.