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Juliate 3 days ago

Yes! But, huge but, very huge but, you lose the affordance of the switches and the buttons and the knobs and the patch cables. And that is a terrible loss for fiddling and discovery.

lolive 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

My path has been to work a lot in the ODDYSEi app.

Now that I understand most of it, I am really considering buying a ARP 2600 replica.

So yes, the switch from software to hardware comes with time. But, at least for me, the first step is cheap apps on my already-owned tablet.

piltdownman a day ago | parent [-]

As a BARP 2600 owner (standard, not grey or blue) I couldn't recommend it more. If nothing else its max €400 for one of the most incredibly routable FX modules of all time with a very serviceable digital spring-reverb and Ring Modulator in the mix. Pair with a Strymon Night Sky or Big Sky and you've an enviable ambient/soundscape setup.

lolive a day ago | parent [-]

Ah man, what can i say.... That's SO tempting!

Small comments/interrogations regarding hardware vs software in this post:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45235398

May be you have some opinion regarding these.

xdfgh1112 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You gain presets lol. And in the case of odyssei it has a ton of additional features including a sequencer and full effects bank!

Experiences vary but sliding a slider on a screen is worth the benefits.

lolive 3 days ago | parent [-]

In the case of ODDYSEi, I am not sure whether the included 6-controls sequencer [i think that’s called P-lock] and/or the desunion on 8 « channels » [not sure of the wording] also exist somehow as hardware devices for the real ARP Oddysey

lolive 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

True. But for going from zero to semi-hero, that’s definitely an option. [the huge amount of presets in software synths is really an BIG added value, so you can learn how each given sound is built]

Juliate 3 days ago | parent [-]

Definitely agree too. Budget is definitely not the same.

And something like VCVRack is heaven to learn, experiment and understand what one can do with synthesis, step by step.

drcongo 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Ahh, but, you can just chain a bunch of Intech controllers. That's what I do. https://intech.studio

zokier 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Midi controllers work plenty good with ipads

Juliate 3 days ago | parent [-]

Totally agree, and it's an intermediary step, but it's still not the same.

I mean, it's terrific to have an affordable replica, especially for discovery, I'm not debating the price-point advantage (for both acquisition and maintenance), but this is not an on-par replacement.

In an analog (less so in digital, but still somehow) synth, the controls are the instrument itself: they are in a specific place, react in a specific way, and physically part of the device that outputs the sound, and they stay there: you cannot move one without the other. The instrument has its own character. It's still more abstract than a classical instrument like the violin or the piano where the physical action alone is done and felt in real time, of course. It's significantly more incarnated than software + generic (in a good way) controllers.

The good side of this is that after having software replicas or original synthetisers, there's room to build new exciting embodiments/physical instruments.

kstrauser 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

My first synth was a TX81Z. That one set of buttons I’ll never miss.