▲ | ripcjk 17 hours ago | |
Can we please tone down the rhetoric, falsely accusing people of being fascists radicalized someone and got a good, innocent man murdered this week. | ||
▲ | ImPostingOnHN 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |
Please do not spread disinformation here: - We do not know the motivation of the shooter, but charlie had violent enemies who claimed he wasn't fascist enough, just like he had enemies who claimed he was too fascist. - We do not know the alignment of the shooter, but we have at least as much evidence that he was right-wing as we do that he was left-wing. - There is not a consensus that condemnation for fascist rhetoric was false, but we do have a nonzero, nonmajority of people claiming there is. - We do not know if charlie was "good" or "innocent", but I personally feel that this violence was a bad idea, and feel bad that his family is suffering through it. Also, he clearly had friends who are hurting, too. I agree that we should tone down actions and rhetoric, and as explained above, the things in your post after the first sentence work against those aims. Better to just tell everybody on all sides to tone down their actions and tone down their rhetoric. I am on board with you there. We do know that name-calling and calls for violence and propensity for violence (all things suspected of contributing to this action) are coming from right-wing voices at least as much as they are coming from left-wing voices. So let's start by not engaging in political violence (both assassins and ICE attacks), and see if we can find agreement on language. | ||
▲ | chtsh1tgetkirkd 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |
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