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bitpush 4 days ago

> Why is there such an anti-OpenAI bias on a forum run by YCombinator, basically the pseudo-parent of OpenAI?

Isnt that a good thing? The comments here are not sponsored, nor endorsed by YC.

atleastoptimal 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

I'd expect to see a balance though, at least on the notion that people would be attracted to posting on a YC forum over other forums due to them supporting or having an interest in YC.

bhhaskin 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

I think the majority of people don't care about YC. It just happens to be the most popular tech forum.

ncallaway 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> posting on a YC forum over other forums due to them supporting or having an interest in YC.

I've been posting here for over a decade, and I have absolutely no interest in YC in any way, other than a general strong negative sentiment towards the entire VC industry YC included.

Lots of people come here for the forum, and leave the relationship with YC there.

MegaButts 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why do you assume there would be a balance? Maybe YC's reputation has just been going downhill for years. Also, OpenAI isn't part of YC. Sam Altman was fired from YC and it's pretty obvious what he learned from that was to cheat harder, not change his behavior.

tptacek 4 days ago | parent [-]

Sam Altman wasn't fired from YC.

MegaButts 4 days ago | parent [-]

The story I heard before the PR spin that came from Paul Graham later (where he tweeted that he never fired him and asked him to choose between YC and OpenAI) was that he was asked to resign. I don't have an official source, I heard this from multiple YC alumni. I don't know exactly what happened but based on what I've heard and actually having interacted with Sam Altman, it seems most likely to me he was asked to resign (which isn't technically being fired) because he does weird stuff. He claimed to be a chairman of YC which wasn't true, he barred other YC partners from running personal funds while he did it himself, and then all the further similar behaviors we've seen play out at OpenAI. Maybe you're right, but it seems to me he was "fired" and later there was some PR to smooth it over.

https://archive.is/Vl3VR

https://archive.is/2mzD7

tptacek 4 days ago | parent [-]

You don't know what exactly happened, but you stated confidently what happened.

fragmede 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

That doesn't address the substance of the claim though. What do you know that you aren't telling us about that situation?

MegaButts 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

You're right about that and that's why I'm providing additional context.

fragmede 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's Saturday morning for California, where YC is centered. Everyone here should be out doing anything else (including me). It's not a random sampling of HN commenters, but a certain subset. I think we've just found out which way the subset that comments on Saturday mornings leans.

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wltr 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Well, in a way they are endorsed. They actively censor things they don’t like. Since there’s no moderation log, nobody prevents them from removing things just because they don’t like them.