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>the shooter is a MAGA republican who cosplays as Trump,and Charlies last words were a racist dog whistle

All of this is factually incorrect.

Unless you interpret a Hallowe'en costume (i.e., something that comes with the message that this is a scary person not to be idolized) as "cosplay" (https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/tyler-robinsons-chill...), the primary suspect (out of respect to the justice system, I must continue to admit the possibility that they got the wrong guy, until the trial has concluded) did nothing of the sort. (Aside from which, he would have been 14 at the time.) Apparently some people are circulating images of him in a MAGA shirt, but these are photoshopped (https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2025/09/fact-check-tyler-...). There were Antifa slogans and memes on the bullets and the shooter targeted a conservative, and he is known to have opposed Kirk ideologically (https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/hey-fascist-catch-messages-w...). He is very obviously not a "MAGA Republican".

Charlie Kirk's last words were to ask for a clarification, arguably in a pointed way, intended to imply that gang violence should be counted as mass shooting when it otherwise meets the definition. Even if you take a logical leap based on the statistics showing that the perpetrators of such violence are generally non-white, there is nothing racist about pointing this out. The statistics are what they are, and saying so does not attribute the conduct to non-white people in general. If claims like this are made off-limits then it becomes impossible to discuss a real problem that results in many deaths.

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krispyfi a day ago | parent | next [-]

Calling the markings on the casings, "antifa" is premature, in my opinion. The arrows are a Helldivers II reference. "Bella Ciao" appears in Far Cry 6 and is featured on a Groyper Spotify playlist. (The suspect cosplayed as a Groyper meme, and Groypers hate Charlie Kirk, so it adds up.) UwU is a reference to furries.

My guess is he's a terminally-online gamer/channer/Groyper and he was trying to troll news organizations into broadcasting his spicy memes. But this is just my guess, and until we get more evidence, my guess is worth about as much as your "antifa" theory, i.e., zilch.

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zahlman a day ago | parent | next [-]

And what about the "Hey, fascist! Catch!" one?

It comes across to me like you're ignoring a plain reading of the evidence in favour of one that refers to an even more cryptic group. (There are also other comments in the discussion arguing that this group disdains political violence.)

	▲	krispyfi 18 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> The Terminids Icon Terminids, sometimes referred to as the Terminid Horde[1] or Terminid Swarm, and commonly called Bugs, are one of the enemy factions in the Second Galactic War. They have control over 21 planets. The Terminids have been identified as "Fascist"[2] by Super Earth Icon Super Earth, despite the individual Terminid clearly being incapable of comprehending the ideology. https://helldivers.fandom.com/wiki/Terminids But you're missing my point, which is that it's too early to speculate. Pundits were blaming trans people and leftists before the bullets were even found.

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one_of_a_kind a day ago | parent | prev [-]

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metalman 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Statistics are a game, where picking the starting point guarantees who wins. I shall demonstrate : Statsticly the vast majority of profits from gun crime goes to white people, who own the gun companys, distribution, and sales of guns, and the jails that then are imensly profitable in holding the criminals who shoot people. I win.