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derbOac 4 days ago

No offense to your father but I've always felt like the "innocent until proven guilty" philosophy is expansive and fundamental privacy rights are part of that principle. That is, the underlying principle isn't "innocent until proven guilty" but something more akin to "your complete autonomy should be assumed by default, and the government should have to clear an extremely high threshold to constrain it".

I also really believe that this raises the bar for everyone. If the government has to work harder to prove your guilt, the case is all that much stronger when the threshold is met.

I'm probably preaching to the choir but I increasingly see arguments to the contrary as boiling down to "make things so the executive branch of the government doesn't have to work as hard" which I don't find compelling as a societal value.

conductr 4 days ago | parent [-]

This is the crux of my belief system on the topic too. Along with the associated “burden of proof” and how making it less burdensome should not be anyone citizens goal or responsibility.

The irony is that it’s precisely why GPs dad had a job, with full transparency there’s essentially no need for any type of forensics.

jofla_net 4 days ago | parent [-]

Sadly, Percisely. Digital Forensics (the evidence of nothing by the way, a great book), is approaching little more than gluing together datasets from various completely fungible entities. I too could be a master investigator if I could simply compel various busnisses to gift me the tables needed!

Nevermark 4 days ago | parent [-]

Pretty soon they will be able to run all our information through a language model.

Models could identify "suspicious" behavior and generate plausible theories to fit the desired witch hunt, based on what they read. Scary.

tastyfreeze 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

That is essentially what has been done since the FBI Carnivore software circa 1997. The software gets more complicated but the goal is the same. I assume that the drive for better AI models is in part driven by intelligence agency needs to categorize mountains of data to build profiles of individuals.

conductr 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

The eventuality is of course a dystopian thought police situation, where simply thinking or even Googling something suggesting you were even contemplating something illegal will be grounds to charge you with the crime.