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9dev 3 days ago

If you factor in all the cost usually externalised in nuclear power, it’s often a lot more expensive than people realise. Decommissioning nuclear waste and old reactors is a huge, time-consuming, and thus extremely expensive operation.

mpweiher 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

This turns out not to be the case, and all these supposedly "externalized" costs are actually included in the price of electricity produced by nuclear reactors.

For example in Switzerland, all of that still allows full production costs of 4,34 Rappen (with a profit).

tcfhgj 3 days ago | parent [-]

In France they aren't, Germany neither

mpweiher 3 days ago | parent [-]

Wrong on both counts.

The only wrinkle is that when the German government made electricity production from nuclear power illegal, it had to take over some of those responsibilities, for obvious reasons.

It also took over the money that had been saved up thus far, which is almost certainly more than needed to cover the costs. Well unless those costs are driven up to infinity with ever more creative mechanisms by politicians.

But that's a political problem.

Finland just built a site for around €1 billion.

throwaway2037 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

    > Finland just built a site for around €1 billion.
I am confused. Are you talking about reactor #3 from Olkiluoto? Even the initial estimate from 2005 was 3B EUR.
mpweiher 3 days ago | parent [-]

No, about the Onkalo nuclear storage facility.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20230613-onkalo-has-finla...

tcfhgj 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

it is not wrong, both countries subsidized nuclear power

beeflet 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Nuclear waste is a problem caused by activists preventing disposal sites like yucca mountain from being built

BrtByte 3 days ago | parent [-]

Yep, the "nuclear waste problem" is 90% political, not technical

9dev 2 days ago | parent [-]

That doesn't change its cost in the slightest, unless you have a solution for some part of the population not agreeing with you