It’s simple, Germany isn’t going to be participating in the next industrial revolution. It will be the US vs. China. You can already see it happening with their car industry as they struggle to keep up with new technology.

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bluGill 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Germany doesn't need to participate in the next. They need to participate in something though. They are too small to do everything alone. Even the US depends on a lot of other countries to make things work.

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standeven 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If we’re looking at the car and energy industries, I think China has already won.

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kulahan 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Could you expand more on your car point? I thought BMW and Benz were doing great at the moment. I dunno much about Audi or VW, but Mini also seems to be doing well (which I thought was British, but one of their models has literally the same engine as my last bimmer, so I guess they were sold at some point?).

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tietjens 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

The German car companies are struggling intensely against Chinese competition, everywhere outside of the US, and especially in China. The Chinese electric cars sell for 3 times less than the German ones in EU. The Chinese also invested heavily in e tech. The Germans? Not so much.

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kulahan 2 days ago | parent [-]

Ah yeah, now that you mention it I’ve heard BYD is doing well in most markets (plus others, I assume). Even ignoring current tariffs, I’m not sure an overtly Chinese car would catch on in the US, but I’m pretty sure I’ve been wrong before.

	▲	tietjens a day ago \| parent [-]
		I believe that if allowed in, they would be competitive and that is why they are not allowed. And because of security claims.

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simonklitj 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Heh, it was bought by BMW in ‘94.

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carlhjerpe 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Sure, talk to your grid operators about that! :)