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calibas 4 days ago

I looked into this a little more, and these were the final two provisions of the Patriot Act, so the did law expire.

Unfortunately, that doesn't mean a whole lot, as many of the provisions live on in the USA Freedom Act.

virtue3 4 days ago | parent [-]

Was not aware of the USA Freedom Act

details on it:

Reauthorization of Other Patriot Act Provisions: The USA FREEDOM Act extended two other provisions from the Patriot Act that were set to expire: "Lone Wolf" Provision: Allows for surveillance on individual terrorists who may not be directly linked to a foreign power. "Roving Wiretap" Provision: Enables surveillance to follow a suspect even if they change their communication methods or devices.

Everyone should be super clued in whenever the government chooses to classify something as 'terrorism' because of these provisions.

There appeared to be a lot of "good things" associated with this Act but also... as things go. Not great things such as above.

lazide 4 days ago | parent [-]

It is no accident that the current admin is classifying suspected drug runners as ‘terrorists’, for example. Namely, the precedent of the Obama era droning of even US citizens under the same label.

mc32 3 days ago | parent [-]

If they are going to go to war at least go to war over something that immensely benefits Americans (such as decrease of deaths due to overdosing and consequences of addiction). Definitely better than acting as the enforcers for other nations who are too pussy to do their warring on their own.

mikeyouse 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

If we’re going to war over anything it should be authorized by Congress and not just a disinterested president carrying out extrajudicial drone strikes with absolutely no legal authority in US or international law.

mc32 3 days ago | parent [-]

Oh, wait, did I miss it? Did we declare war in the ME all these last twenty years without me knowing?

If we’re going to do shit like this at least let it be something we get direct benefits from and not some sheiks and others in the ME or Caucasus.

mikeyouse 3 days ago | parent [-]

Perhaps you did miss the AUMF, but it was pretty prominent. While Obviously falling short of a declaration of war, it provided a legal basis to be held against. Regardless, we’d finally stopped basically all drone activity in Afghanistan and the ME before the current warmongering admin showed back up with unrestrained drones, bluster about Jihadists in Africa, drone strikes in the Caribbean, F35s over Mexico and B2s flying around the world to drop bombs in Iran. This is the Department of War you know.

Ignoring that all the existing ‘wars’ are still ongoing and pretending like this is some more narrow focus is just silly.

https://archive.is/3ZNCO

throwawayqqq11 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Lets make a deal, the US can destabilize the middle east as they desire more mission accomplished IS nation building against terror but in return has to take in all the resulting refugees, even when they look a little mexican.

lazide 3 days ago | parent [-]

Why pay when they can do it now for free?