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user34283 4 days ago

Spot on.

Some think we need financial freedom, but in reality it's the freedom to fund scams and malware, launder money, dodge taxes, and buy stuff that’s illegal.

That won't become legal just because you use "Monero" or whatever. Obviously we can't have privacy for financial transactions.

rocqua 4 days ago | parent [-]

You forgot a few things on that list that people would like freedom for:

advocating for (or against) trans rights, protesting against the deportation of migrants, advocate against gun-control, and donating to (anti) palestinian causes

Are just a few things that people would like the freedom to do.

The point being, financial privacy is an important part of having a functioning democracy. But at the same time, financial control and limits are also an important part of a functioning democracy, for e.g. the 'freedoms' you mention. In the end, neither perfect privacy, not perfect surveilance are what we need. The best solution will be somewhere in the middle, with nuance.

user34283 4 days ago | parent [-]

> financial privacy is an important part of having a functioning democracy

No, I don't think it is. Perhaps privacy for speech and voting are.

Ylpertnodi 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

>> financial privacy is an important part of having a functioning democracy

>No, I don't think it is. Perhaps privacy for speech and voting are.

Cash works for financial privacy, and functioning democracies.

realo 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Heinous speech is allowed in the USA but is totally illegal in Canada.

I live in Canada. Anonymous heinous speech? No thank you. Go away.

doganugurlu 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

How is privacy for voting different than privacy for funding the candidate?

vkou 4 days ago | parent [-]

One man one vote is a little different from one dollar one word, or one dollar one vote.

In most civilized countries you have privacy in the voting booth (because without it, buying votes becomes trivial), but no privacy in financing campaigns.

Some of those countries even have rules about when campaigns can and cannot run, because there are benefits to living in a society that's not actively bombarded by polarizing political screeching 24/7. It does some to cut down the influence of dollars in politics.

I guess it makes people in the advertising business, and people looking to buy political influence very unhappy.