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SanjayMehta 3 days ago

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ceejayoz 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

The second sentence of the article answers the fake insurance bit; "did not have permission to sell insurance but did it anyway".

If you click the (helpfully underlined) first use of "shadow fleet" in the article it defines it for you. (Or ask Wikipedia; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_fleet)

svota 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I feel like TFA answers the fake insurance question pretty well. The company sold "insurance" which was not actually insurance. They were providing a cover for ships selling from a sanctioned country. Those ships were required to have insurance, and no legitimate business would insure them.

SanjayMehta 3 days ago | parent [-]

Sanctioned by what international legal body?

jplrssn 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> What is “fake insurance?”

Do you believe Ro Marine would have paid out claims related to their "insured" vessels?

cenamus 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You can literally press on it in the article and a definition pops up.

SanjayMehta 3 days ago | parent [-]

I didn’t see any article. I saw a propaganda piece.

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newyankee 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Anything not validated by NATO/ USA is fake, rest of the world should adhere to their terms and definitions as the high seas are owned by them

polotics 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Definitely no. The "fake" here is about certainty that no insurance payout would occur in case of issue, meaning for example an oil tanker accidently dumping tons of black goo onto some english seaside resort, no compensation would come out of anywhere.

vintermann 3 days ago | parent [-]

How reliable is liability insurance for that sort of thing, generally speaking?

ceejayoz 3 days ago | parent [-]

Quite. The real insurers are large, old, and have long made a name for themselves in this regard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd%27s_of_London

SanjayMehta 3 days ago | parent [-]

So existing legacy monopolies are real and all newcomers are fake. Got it.

ceejayoz 2 days ago | parent [-]

Nah. The smaller new ones reinsure via folks like Lloyds. It’s quite complex.

The company in this article could have done that, but they forged documents to avoid it. They had no intention of covering accidents - it was just plain fake to get these ships into ports.

throwawaysleep 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

They were not truly insured.