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jychang 5 days ago

Strong disagree.

Llama 4's release in 2025 is (deservedly) panned, but Llama 3.1 405b does not deserve that slander.

https://artificialanalysis.ai/#frontier-language-model-intel...

Do not compare 2024 models to the current cutting edge. At the time, Llama 3.1 405b was the very first open source (open weights) model to come close to the closed source cutting edge. It was very very close in performance to GPT-4o and Claude 3.5 Sonnet.

In essence, it was Deepseek R1 before Deepseek R1.

seunosewa 5 days ago | parent [-]

He is definitely talking about Llama4.

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

> last year

> dense

> 405B model

Llama4 does not match any of these details. Maybe the commenter thinks their comment is about Llama4 (I don't see a reason to believe so) but readers familiar with these details know they are referring to Llama3.1.

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jug 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Llama 4 is neither from last year nor a dense model.