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bbarnett a day ago

Tesla went into humanoid robots to pump the stock.

Everything else in your comment is more locked to direct observable info.

However this really isn't. And frankly every CEO wants a healthy stock price, that doesn't mean the primary goal is "pump the stock", which is what you are stating is the goal here.

That said, the Chrysler/Stellantis thing is just weirdosville. One thing I liked was this new platform:

https://www.caranddriver.com/ram/1500-ramcharger

but:

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a64781518/ram-ramcharger-1...

They put all that work into it, hype, pre-launch, and it's even built on a common platform. The truck is basically the same as their pure-electric version, as the engine is simply used as a generator to charge. No major changes to the rest of the vehicle, just an added engine.

You may wonder why I like this? Well I was hoping it's carry over to smaller Jeeps or even cars. I live in a rural area, and it gets quite cold here (-40C sometimes), which really reduces range. I want a PHEV, but also with a backup power plant.

This is that.

It also reduces a lot of the complexity of a hybrid. No dual drive train, or one part driven by gas engine, the other electric.

I can see myself driving much of the summer with the engine only coming on rarely, but then needing the engine more and more in the winter. But at least I'd be on battery most of the time, even then.

Heck, I can drive 100s of km without there being a fast charger here.

We need bridge vehicles for the time being.

But my rambling really goes back to, they developed the platform, started selling it, but held off on this final piece because of.. reasons?

Weirdos.

Animats 10 hours ago | parent [-]

> Tesla went into humanoid robots to pump the stock. Everything else in your comment is more locked to direct observable info. However this really isn't.

Musk says it is: "Tesla CEO Elon Musk said on X that about 80% of his automaker’s value will come from Optimus humanoid robots. Musk said in mid-2024 that Optimus robots could make Tesla a $25 trillion company, equal to more than half the value of the S&P 500 at the time of his comment."[1]

I'd like a good $35,000 electric Jeep myself.

[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/02/musk-tesla-value-optimus-rob...

bbarnett 24 minutes ago | parent [-]

Sure, but that's discussing the outcome of a goal. That doesn't make it the goal. To highlight this, they've been working on Optimus for what? A decade?

'Pump the stock' has more of a bait and switch, or a scammish connotation, at least to me. Every company must be aware of stock price to a degree, and tout their successes and products and goals. That's not pumping, which is often conjoined with pump'n'dump.

But anyhow.

What I like about that platform, is you could have that $35k electric Jeep, and I could have a $45k electric Jeep with built in generator and other fluff modz, but it would be built on the exact same platform. Same parts except for the generator+tank.

One of the benefits could be space for extra bling. You could put a water tank on the mounting brackets for the fuel tank, or something else interesting. You could convert your model to a gen model, even buying parts from the wreckers on the cheap, should your circumstances change. Or the reverse! Remove the gen+tank if desired.

I can imagine needed the gen+tank for 4 years, then maybe I suddenly have sufficient fast chargers locally...

Heck selling a model with the wiring + tank would add minimal weight. Even just the wiring. Imagine being able to rent an engine for a week, a month, a year? The mount rails and a generic, standardized connector is there, the software supports it, an open API.

So much could be done, but of course won't.

But I do, as maybe you can tell, really like the idea of a shared platform.