Russ Allbery left over bureaucracy and systemd. It sounds like it's chocked full of people who want power and an excuse to patch downstream to create a cottage industry of quirks, busywork, and codependency.

I prefer real choice and light patches that try to upstream as much as possible, or workaround upstream obstinacy rather than create incompatible idiosyncrasies. One area that isn't well represented in barely a/no distro is init freedom neither married to nor completely divorced from the sprawling octopus.

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joeyh 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

You are confusing Russ Allbery with me, while at the same time making it sound like I have a problem with systemd, which is not the case. Russ remains a debian developer.

	▲	burnt-resistor 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		No, I don't think so but perhaps it wasn't as drastic: https://lwn.net/Articles/620879/ Also, I worked in the same department as Russ once upon a time in a galaxy far, far away.

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actionfromafar 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't think you can be partly married to Cuthulhu. (Systemd.)

	▲	styanax 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		[ eldritch noises intensify ] As an actual answer, it's not too bad on Debian; we only really use/need: systemd (system and user), -logind, -journald, -udevd. All in all, not too many tentacles but there are a few...