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serf 4 days ago

there is a time and place to try to heal the damage you believe that he did to society -- but you're clearly celebrating the death of the man in a thread about his assassination.

You seem to be nonplussed about his suffering, you're criticizing the way a dead man expressed his religious beliefs to the audience, and are implying that his beliefs on gun control somehow balanced his death.

Doesn't that help fuel the narratives about his political opposition that he tried to drive while living?

>Not everyone is some crazed extremist.

...maybe so, but the death of this dude sure did pull some out of thin air.

vkou 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

There's nothing in the parent post that celebrates the assassination. It expresses no empathy for him, but lack of empathy is not a celebration.

It does outline the various ways in which Kirk worked to make the world a worse place, but an accounting of it is not a celebration of a public killing.

"Religious beliefs" is not a weapon or a shield that you can just raise to deflect all criticism of a man's actions. It rings especially hollow for one whose behavior was so highly un-Christ-like.

ChainnChompp 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I see nothing "celebrating" anything in that comment. Just some facts about someone who's ideologies they found reprehensible - as most should by the sounds of it.

NickC25 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> but you're clearly celebrating the death of the man in a thread about his assassination.

I'm not celebrating anything. I'm pointing out irony. You call for gun violence, thinking you're untouchable (because of your skin color and political ties), but you're not.

>you're criticizing the way a dead man expressed his religious beliefs to the audience

Hang on here. Let's unpack this. This is actually pretty humorous.

Let's take the story of Jesus of Nazareth. A poor, brown skinned Jewish guy from Israel born out of wedlock who worked as a carpenter and preached love, compassion, and understanding, whose supposed miracles included healing the sick and disfigured. He worked to feed the needy, clothe the naked, advocated for paying taxes, and treating one's enemies with compassion as if they were their own kin. This person was executed by being nailed to a cross and in his final moments, still asked his followers to forgive his executioners.

We have a rich white dude, raised in a wealthy first world major city suburb using the above gentleman's message to preach hate, racial superiority, phobia, and outright bigotry, all under the guise of "asking tough questions". This dude would go around and "debate" young adults (and children) half his age and use "gotcha" tactics and quick speaking to overwhelm and gish gallop his opposition into giving up. He would then selectively edit the "debates" and post them online to create a strawman for his political allies to punch.

Religious beliefs, eh? Come on.