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micromacrofoot 4 days ago

it can only do this because it's been trained on millions of human works

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jryle70 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

And those millions people learned their craft by studying those who came before them.

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echelon 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

This argument that hints at appropriation isn't going to be very useful or true, going forward.

There are now dozens of copyright safe image and video models: Adobe, MoonValley, etc.

We technically never need human works again. We can generate everything synthetically (unreal engine, cameras on a turn table, etc.)

The physics of optics is just incredibly easy to evolve.

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lawlessone 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

>We technically never need human works again.

Not sure about that. Humans are doing almost all the work now still.

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echelon 4 days ago | parent [-]

I'm sorry, but in the context of image gen, this is also deeply biased.

Nano banana saves literally millions of manual human pixel pushing hours.

It's easy to hate on LLMs and AI hype, but image models are changing the world and impacting every visual industry.

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filoeleven 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

> Nano banana saves literally millions of manual human pixel pushing hours.

At the low, low cost of burning incredible amounts of energy!

This is also he same logic as “lost sale” software piracy calculations. 90% of those claimed hours would not have been spent if the tool did not exist. Most of the generated images are idle throwaways that no human would bother with creating.

	▲	echelon 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		I work in media. I edit images frequently. These models are incredibly useful. Your arguments sound to me as if you're saying the cotton gin is a bad idea because 90% of that cotton wouldn't have been picked. Lay people have been starved from being able to visually articulate themselves. We're entering into a world where everyone will have spatial articulation. That's a good thing. Don't be the latin clergy arguing the populace shouldn't be able to read or have books.

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micromacrofoot 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

The cotton gin will make farming so efficient we won't need slaves!

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lm28469 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You can also drink your own piss and eat your own shit for a while and stay alive, I don't think you'll get better with time if that's all you ingest

	▲	echelon 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		The amount of anti-AI vitriol in some of these threads is illogical. I don't think you're being fair here at all. The technology has demonstrable positive use cases.

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micromacrofoot 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Complete nonsense, if this were to follow every AI company would stop training because it's so expensive... but they won't.