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robinhood 4 days ago

Zig was created in 2016 though - almost 10 years at this point. Perhaps the surprise here is that we are not as exposed to this language on well-known and established projects as other languages like Rust, Go and C.

pdpi 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

Zig is still at the 0.x stage, and there's still a bunch of churn going on on really basic stuff like IO and memory allocation. I really enjoy writing it, but it's by no means stable to the point many people would write production software in it.

dwattttt 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Rust hit 1.0 in 2015, it started as a project by Graydon Hoare in 2006; those dates line up pretty well with Zig's timeline.

ivanjermakov 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

To be fair, Zig 10 years ago is drastically different language from Zig today.

ojosilva 4 days ago | parent [-]

Which is unfortunately a problem for AI trained on Zig, it makes some AI-assisted Zig coding more challenging, like Q&A and code-completion. It's sad that this glass-ceiling has been enacted for new languages and frameworks, not a deal-breaker at all, just that suddenly there's this penalty on time-to-deliver on anything Zig. But then... the same issue exists when hiring good programmers for lesser-known tech.

There'll probably be a strategy (AEO?) for this in the future for newcomers and the underrepresented, like endless examples posted by a sane AI to their docs and github for instance so it gets picked up by training sets or live, tool calling, web-searches.

rererereferred 3 days ago | parent [-]

Yes, I wouldn't train AI on Zig code just yet. But here's a radical idea, rename the language the moment it hits 1.0: all documentation, blog posts, discussions, SO answers and LLMs for older versions gets automatically voided.

For future languages, maybe it's better to already have a dev name and a release name from the get go.