(a few specific towns, which have done various things to smooth operating conditions for Waymo.)

It's useful, don't get me wrong, but when Waymo can handle Cairo and Rome, I'll consider it a solved problem.

AlotOfReading 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

What specific things do you think the "towns" of SF, LA, NYC, and Tokyo have done to smooth operating conditions for Waymo?

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fragmede a day ago | parent [-]

Drive according to western standards. If you've never driven outside of those, then it's hard to imagine. No one follows the laws. Lanes are entirely made up, no one follows the lines on the road. If you're not agressive to the point of someone in LA about to shoot you, you won't get in.

I ride Waymos and I believe they can be made to work in Rome et al, but honestly, I doubt most human drivers can drive in eg Mumbai.

	▲	AlotOfReading 9 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I'm familiar with Indian traffic. Those events are more frequent in some places, but they happen everywhere. In any case, it's not what the OP is talking about. They were talking about cities improving conditions to make things easier for AVs. LA wasn't Mumbai before Waymo and it still isn't after.

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stackedinserter 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Maybe cities like Cairo are problems, not the algorithms that can't drive there.

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_diyar 2 days ago | parent [-]

The problem with respect to what? The end-goal of self-driving cars (and humanoid robots) is to work in the environments created for humans. Otherwise we can just put down rails across all cities and call it a tram, or design purpose-built robots for all tasks.

Edit: Stated more explicitly: the human world is the way it is because of many reasons and can't always be changed naively (it's not like nobody in Cairo has thought about improving the traffic situation, or architects haven't thought about the ease of cleaning different flooring material). Robots which are general purpose with respect to their human-like capabilities must necessarily also accept a world in which humans live.

	▲	stackedinserter 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		The end goal of is to make them work in reasonable environments. If it works fine in 90% of cities but doesn't work in Cairo, then fuck Cairo, no driverless cars for them.