▲ | brookst 5 days ago | ||||||||||||||||
I don’t disagree with your diagnosis of American culture, but the tip thing is just shifting wages from employer to customer. It’s no different from VAT versus sales tax: same result, different math. Opting not to tip when it is part of the economic transaction is no different from walking out with the silverware; not expressly forbidden, just a breach of social contract. | |||||||||||||||||
▲ | ToucanLoucan 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
It's absolutely different because a customer is not legally required to tip, and if a customer decides not to, that is directly impacting a worker's take-home pay. And walking out with silverware is theft, I genuinely have no idea where you pulled that from as a similar example. | |||||||||||||||||
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▲ | at-w 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
>It’s no different from VAT versus sales tax: same result, different math. There's lots of evidence that tips vary significantly based on the traits of the customer (like the customer's self-esteem and sense of shame: https://www.emerald.com/insight/content/doi/10.1108/ijchm-02...) and the employee asking for the tip (e.g. attractiveness and simple demographic characteristics: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S01674...). | |||||||||||||||||
▲ | AlecSchueler 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
> walking out with the silverware; not expressly forbidden Isn't property theft very expressly forbidden? | |||||||||||||||||
▲ | gchamonlive 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
Then why call it a tip? It's just cynical then, which I don't know what's worse. | |||||||||||||||||
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▲ | lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||
> when it is part of the economic transaction Well, shit, if I made it part of the economic transaction, you'd have a point. What you're saying is that the employers are not holding up their end of the transaction. |