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closewith 4 days ago

Yes, and blue water navy advocates have been wilfully ignorant to this for at least a decade now.

In this instance, the excuses given are always:

* the small number on watch did not provide enough people to effectively commence damage control,

* the poorly trained crew did not close bulkheads as they evacuated from berths,

* the design did not have sufficient redundancy.

This ignores that all navies now:

* run lean crews and ultra-lean watches, relying on automation,

* training standards are dropping everywhere due to cost, and far fewer seafarers enter naval service with prior experience,

* ships are becoming more automated and cost-sensitive, so new frigates like the Type 26 (that will replace the Fridtjof Nansen-class frigates) or the upcoming US DDG(X)-class are likely to have significantly reduced redundancies and damage-control capacity, given tonnage is increasing by 40+% but crews are shrinking.