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| ▲ | izacus 2 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| The fact that you see an issue reported loudly on social media it doesn't mean it's critical or more common than for other FSes. As usual with all these Linux debates, there's a loud group grinding their old hatreds that can be decade old. |
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| ▲ | const_cast a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The problem is every filesystem can experience data corruption. That doesn't tell us anything about how it relates to BTRFS. Also, filesystems just work. Nobody is gonna say "oh I'm using fileystem X and it works!" because that's the default. So, naturally, 99% of the stuff you'll hear about filesystems is when they don't work. Don't believe me? Look up NTFS and read through reddit or stackexchange or whatever. Not a lot of happy campers. |
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| ▲ | eptcyka 13 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I had a power failure and I lost the whole filesystem. Never happened with ext4 - I've had data loss after a power failure with other filesystems, but never an issue where I wasn't able to mount it and lost 100% of my data. | |
| ▲ | koverstreet a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Do you see the same reports about ext4 or XFS? I don't. | | |
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| ▲ | happymellon 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > If 1% of the users report a given issue (say, data corruption If 0.1% of users say it corrupted for them, and then don't provide any further details and no one can replicate their scenario then it does make it hard to resolve it |
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| ▲ | koverstreet a day ago | parent [-] | | the btrfs devs are also famous for being unresponsive to these sorts of issues. there's a feedback effect: if users know that a filesystem takes these kinds of issues seriously and will drop what they're doing and jump on them, a lot of users will very happily spend the time reporting bugs and working with devs to get it resolved. people don't like wasting their time on bug reports that go into the void. they do like contributing their time when they know it's going to get their issue fixed and make things better for everyone. this is why I regularly tell people "FEED ME YOUR BUG REPORTS! I WANT THEM ALL!" it's just what you have to do if you want your code to be truly bulletproof. | | |
| ▲ | jcalvinowens 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | > the btrfs devs are also famous for being unresponsive to these sorts No, Kent, they are not. Posting attacks like this without evidence is cowardly and dishonest. I'm not going to tolerate these screeds from you about people I've worked with and respect without calling you out. Every time you spew this toxicity, a chunk of bcachefs users reformat and walk away. Very soon, you'll have none left. |
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