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mbs159 5 days ago

What are the odds of winning against a tyrannical government that has UAVs, nukes, tanks, helicopters and jets?

SideQuark 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

100%. The US took all that capability and could not win in 20 years of fighting in Afghanistan against such a force. Same in Vietnam.

The US populace is vastly larger and better armed and capable than Afghanistan.

The US military requires a massive economy to function. If it tries to attack itself, those little armed people could stop it, the economy would crash, and the US military would crumble without needed support and supplies.

A final issue is the US troops would lose a lot of soldiers if they were told to go attack fellow citizens. The soldiers would quit, would hesitate, would not want to kill people they view as their own people.

So armed citizenry absolutely have major power against the govt.

Finally, if you were in a country where the govt set out to kill its citizens, would you rather have arms or be completely unarmed?

NickC25 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

>The US took all that capability and could not win in 20 years of fighting in Afghanistan against such a force.

We had no military objective in Afghanistan.

Our only goal there was to enrich contractors who had stockholders working at the highest levels in the Pentagon and White House. That goal was achieved spectacularly.

mbs159 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

The US military would be the defending force, though, which would put The People at a disadvantage. Pushing through the defenses of a multi-trillion dollar military with AR-15s seems unlikely. I don't even think that China's armed forces could defeat the US military, let alone civilians armed with AR-15s

All being said, I am no military guru and I could be wrong

ta20240528 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Quite good actually, except the prize is that you'll end up like Haiti.

artificialLimbs 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Citizens should be allowed to own UAVs, nukes, tanks, helicopters, and jets. It says in the text: "shall not be infringed." Besides that, who do you think is going to do the fighting, exactly?