I saw the video on the Jubilee channel- so far as I’m aware it is full and uncut.

I have not seen any videos from his channel, I wasn’t aware he had one though obviously in retrospect it is unsurprising.

I found it: https://youtu.be/WV29R1M25n8?si=N9dU3r4DxJzK1a2i

Perhaps if you watch it you’ll have a different impression than I did.

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defrost 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

First thoughts, having never been aware of this whole "20 X Vs 1 of Y" Jubilee format before are that;

* this seems highly contrived, and

* "Now Casting 55+ year old Trump supporters for an upcoming SURROUNDED video" (on the home page)

supports that notion.

This isn't the format of Buckley V. Vidal (perhaps the start of the end of intellectual debate in the US) and nor is it a debate in the sense of equal time, three rounds (case, defense, conclusion), etc.

I've moved on to looking at:

The Problem with Jubilee’s Political Debate Videos - https://fhspost.com/10276/forum/the-problem-with-jubilees-po...

The ‘one voice against 20 extremists’ format is designed to monetise hate - https://observer.co.uk/news/opinion-and-ideas/article/the-on...

which at a first rapid skim appear to flesh out many of the initial issues and feelings that I have.

Right now I have hedges to trim and a roof to tin so it'll be many hours before I can watch an hour and half contrived 'battle' and take notes .. but I will give it a shot.

Thanks for the link.

	▲	tacitusarc 5 days ago \| parent [-]
		It’s definitely contrived, and Jubilee for sure seems to make clickbait-y videos. I don’t particularly fault them for it, it seems to be the arena they are playing in. But I do think they are fairly neutral, and they get people who disagree to talk to each other, and I appreciate that. I watched another video of theirs where it was inverted, with many conservative students debating one liberal pundit, and of course the students did worse- they’re just a bunch of kids. But good to be exposed to another point of view. Best of luck on your hedges and roof! That sounds far more worthwhile than watching that video.

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komali2 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Jubilee does cut their videos just so you're aware. I've never heard of them ever releasing a full uncut version. They have good editors, it's hard to tell. They'll snip entire participant segments.