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| ▲ | Gupie 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | If they are trans or not he still "died for his beliefs", as he had said: "I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our God-given rights." | | |
| ▲ | johnnyanmac 4 days ago | parent [-] | | Is "trans people shouldn't own guns" a "deeply intellectual" thought? Or even one that supports 2A? |
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| ▲ | crote 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Supposed problem. He was being questioned about the data showing otherwise. | |
| ▲ | mcphage 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > If his shooter gets caught and is trans True—but that's the thing about preaching hate, it turns out, there's lots of people who might want you dead. | | |
| ▲ | foxglacier 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Did he preach hate? I've seen some of his videos and never saw anything like that. Perhaps you've confused something else for hate? | | |
| ▲ | mcphage 4 days ago | parent [-] | | Here’s a brief summary, if you’re asking in good faith and actually want to know: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/9/11/2342963/-The-whit... but there’s plenty of others as well. | | |
| ▲ | foxglacier 3 days ago | parent [-] | | Which part of that is preaching hate? I couldn't identify any from a quick look. Is it the “a lack-of-father problem in the Black community.”? | | |
| ▲ | mcphage 3 days ago | parent [-] | | Okay, so not in good faith. I’m sorry I responded to you. Ya got me, +1 for the trolls. | | |
| ▲ | foxglacier 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Yes good faith. That article is full of examples and I don't understand which ones you count as preaching hate. Was that one or not? | | |
| ▲ | mcphage 2 days ago | parent [-] | | How about stoning gay people? Or pushing the Great Replacement theory? Or claiming that the Texan flooding deaths were due to DEI initiatives? Like did you read it? | | |
| ▲ | foxglacier 2 days ago | parent [-] | | I looked at the stoning gay people one through the link there and it isn't clear if he's advocating for it, against it, or just stating a fact about what the bible says. He used it to respond to a pro-gay Christian (Ms. Rachel from kids videos) who favored a law from Leviticus (love thy neighbor) and he pointed out that the same book also says to stone gays. He said that if you love God, you should love his laws, including that one (implying that Ms. Rachel should want to stone gays to be consistent with her stated belief). He described it as God's perfect law... but it's not clear if he actually condones or believes that or is just making a claim about what's true within the canon of the bible or what Ms. Rachel would believe to be consistent with herself. Do you know if he ever clarified his position on killing gays anywhere else? If that's the only time he ever publicly mentioned it, on it's own, it's too ambiguous to call preaching hate. So far, I can't find any hate preaching. I don't want to sift through everything just in case there's some hidden gem. You could just tell me which one is pretty clear if you knew about it. So I assume you're just repeating some popular opinion that isn't even true. | | |
| ▲ | mcphage 2 days ago | parent [-] | | > He described it as God's perfect law... but it's not clear if he actually condones or believes that How do you imagine that working? Do you call many things you don’t support “God’s perfect law?” > just making a claim about what's true within the canon of the bible I wonder why he chose that specific example, then. > what Ms. Rachel would believe to be consistent with herself. What do you mean here? > Do you know if he ever clarified his position on killing gays anywhere else? This is an amazing sentence. | | |
| ▲ | foxglacier a day ago | parent [-] | | > How do you imagine that working? Do you call many things you don’t support “God’s perfect law?” Imagine instead of the Bible, it's The Lord Of The Rings. Somebody examining it might describe the special master ring as being Sauron's perfect creation, or whatever. That doesn't mean they believe it is in real life. They're talking within the context of the story. You're saying he preaches hate by promoting killing gays. If that's what he was doing, wouldn't he have been clearer about it instead of just using it as part of a smug retort showing somebody else's hypocrisy? > What do you mean here? She used Leviticus to justify her beliefs, but apparently cherry-picked the parts she wanted and neglected the stoning gays part. He's pointing out that the actual text says the opposite of what she believes based on that same book of the bible. Since every example you've shown and I've looked at has been weak or nothing, I conclude that you're wrong about him preaching hate and instead you've just been fooled by media telling you that and you never bothered to look at the evidence. Really, it's that media that's been preaching hate - hence why he was so widely hated. | | |
| ▲ | mcphage a day ago | parent [-] | | > That doesn't mean they believe it is in real life. They're talking within the context of the story. So you read a bunch of his writings, or watched his videos, and didn’t pick up on the fact that he was a devout Christian? > I conclude that you're wrong about him preaching hate and instead you've just been fooled by media telling you that and you never bothered to look at the evidence. Really, it's that media that's been preaching hate - hence why he was so widely hated. It’s clear you started with your conclusion—very efficient, but a waste of my time. I’m done feeling the trolls, goodbye. | | |
| ▲ | foxglacier a day ago | parent [-] | | Yes I knew he was a Christian. So? Ms. Rachel is too and she somehow doesn't want to kill gays, despite quoting Leviticus. At the end of the day, you have no evidence that he was preaching hate. So you must have come to that conclusion by believing what someone told you without checking it yourself. If you were being skeptical, you could go and ask those people who told you that to explain their reasons and maybe they do have something, or maybe they don't. |
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| ▲ | qcnguy 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | That right here is why leftism is such a violent ideology and why all good people should abandon it: 1. Pick some ideas. 2. Define any disagreement with those ideas as "hate". 3. Kill anyone who disagrees on the grounds that "haters" deserve it. This is circular mirror-world logic. The left is full of hate-based ideas. If leftists were being systematically mown down and Trump led celebrations each time, justifying himself by this logic, you would find it appalling. | | |
| ▲ | mcphage 4 days ago | parent [-] | | I’m not justifying anything, just pointing out he made a lot of different groups of people angry, and so it’s hard to tell which group the shooter may have belonged to. | | |
| ▲ | qcnguy 4 days ago | parent [-] | | It's not hard at all. He said things that upset the left, a violent leftist killed him, leftists are now celebrating. And he was without a doubt killed by a leftist. According to investigators they found his ammo, which was engraved with "transgender and anti-fascist ideology". | | |
| ▲ | mcphage 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | | > He said things that upset the left, leftists are now celebrating. Maybe, but was he killed for denigrating black people? Gay people? Jews? Transgender people? Immigrants? Professors? Doctors? The list goes on. He also pissed off the right, too—Laura Loomer recently calling him a traitor. So, I guess we’ll find out. > According to investigators they found his ammo, which was engraved with "transgender and anti-fascist ideology" You might want to look into that again. | |
| ▲ | mcphage 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | How are you feeling today about that “without a doubt killed by a leftist”? Has that given rise to any introspection? | | |
| ▲ | qcnguy 3 days ago | parent [-] | | Are you claiming he wasn't?? His own friends and family said he is and his bullets were indeed engraved with far left slogans. | | |
| ▲ | mcphage 3 days ago | parent [-] | | Yes, I’m claiming he wasn’t—he was a far right groyper. | | |
| ▲ | qcnguy 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Delusional. It's just come out that he was living with a trans roommate, as if it wasn't enough that he killed a conservative pundit, his bullets were engraved with far left Antifa slogans, sybols and songs, and the investigation has revealed a man "deeply indoctrinated into far left ideology". There is zero evidence for your viewpoint. None of this is surprising. There's a long history of far-left Antifa and trans activist types trying to kill people. Look at the armed far-left militia that attacked an ICE office, or the "trans rationalist cults" that killed their landlord and others. | | |
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| ▲ | mcphage 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | > a violent leftist killed him [...] And he was without a doubt killed by a leftist I think, there's actually a considerable amount of doubt. |
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