Don’t forget about Melissa and Mark Hortman. Or the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot.

lynndotpy 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

I forgot their names; Melissa and Mark Hortman were the assassinated Democrat politicians I mentioned, yes. I did forget the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot though-- no reason other than it slipped my mind.

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pclmulqdq 5 days ago | parent [-]

It slipped your mind because 12 of 18 conspirators in that plot were FBI plants or informants, 2 took a plea deal, and 4 got off due to the entrapment.

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lynndotpy 5 days ago | parent [-]

This is a non-sequitur, why would that make it slip my mind? Those aren't even details I readily remembered, and searching them up, it looks like those details aren't even factual. Searching it up, it seems thirteen people were arrested. The defense claimed three and a half years ago that there were twelve FBI informants.

I think it slipped my mind because there were already too many examples of far-right and conservative terrorist violence, and I was not intending to write an exhaustive comment in the first place.

	▲	pclmulqdq 5 days ago \| parent [-]
		The reason for the non-sequitur is because if there were anything behind this plot, it would have gotten a lot more news coverage than it did as an FBI-seeded conspiracy. As it stands, there were better examples of crazy right wingers (many of whom were actually crazy right wingers), so they moved on to those. In some other parts of the country, the demand for crazy right wingers exceeded the supply, so hoaxes filled that. Thirteen out of eighteen were arrested. Five were directly agents, and FBI agents tend not to get arrested when they are the ones doing the arresting.

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grosswait 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

You mean the one that came out of the FBI’s extremist cultivation https://reason.com/2022/09/04/its-almost-always-the-feds/