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gnarlouse 5 days ago

I don't think this is the right way to think about it. This is short term thinking--it doesn't solve the problem. This is just the road to more gun violence.

yetihehe 5 days ago | parent [-]

> it doesn't solve the problem.

The problem is lack of long-term thinking. How do you instill long-term thinking when the people who should instill it have a lack of long-term thinking? Removing them from their positions is one solution. What others do you have?

gnarlouse 5 days ago | parent [-]

> Removing them from their positions

Through civil action or through violence? It sounds like you're suggesting violence.

yetihehe 4 days ago | parent [-]

No, I suggest removing them through voting them out and voting for people who don't lack long-term thinking. I think this is the best way. But looks like it doesn't work. What do you suggest to do instead?

gnarlouse 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Cool down politics, reject demonization, abandon your jersey, vote for politicians who demonstrate a track-record of putting people first.

There are smart people on both sides of the aisle. The majority of people on either side of the aisle (I'm referring to general citizenry, though I think politicians, to a lesser extent, this also applies) are *good people*, who happen to come from different backgrounds and hence have differing motivations. These people are your neighbors, and we've all been participating in this insane social experiment where the box in the living room, or more contemporarily your hand, tells you about the monsters on the other team. It's precisely why a kid--incapable of the same long-term thinking for which you advocated--just made things a whole lot more distressing for all of us. The news cycles are designed to divide and separate us, and then the politicians play Risk with the political map on "who can we convince, who can we lock into our ideology". Both liberals and conservatives are guilty. Why do you think the republican party--which summarily rejected Trump in 2015--has turned into the MAGA machine it has today? Votes. The way it's fed to us is a sort of perverse culture war: who has the better culture: Bootstrapping Conservative White-nationalist Christians, or Socialist Neoliberal Atheist LGBTQIA+? It's an ill-formed question because first of all it's not remotely posed in good faith, and second of all even if it were in good faith, it's completely subjective in its criterion, so it's unanswerable. The only answer is to "Turn the TV off", as it were.

No surprise then that I sit somewhere in the center, because I'm routinely bugged by good ideas on both sides of the aisle, though the noise. Not just from politicans, but from neighbors and activists. I've tried being hard democrat, I've tried being hard republican. The truth is "being a democrat" and "being a republican" is a stupid fucking jersey to own.

Regarding a strict longterm thinker policy:

Elon is a long-term thinker. Larry Elison is a long-term thinker. Jeff Bezos is a long-term thinker. JD Vance is a long-term thinker. Peter Thiel is a long-term thinker. None were directly voted for (ok, save Vance), and I believe all are invested in America tearing itself apart so they can construct a technofeudalist society post-civil war, and run off to explore the solar system.

Or something.