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bitwize 4 days ago

Ultimately it doesn't matter now, because Xorg is kind of in a state of "active abandonment", that is to say, the only maintenance being done is to ensure that no more bugs are being fixed aside from critical security issues on distros Red Hat still supports. In open source, you go where the developer energy is, and right now that's Wayland.

If you're about to tell me that XLibre is a viable alternative, no you're not because it isn't.

ryao 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Red hat is not the only one working on Xorg. There is a former Sun Microsystems employee at Oracle still working on it:

https://www.x.org/wiki/AlanCoopersmith/

Xorg will continue to exist even if Redhat pulls out, but Redhat needs it for XWayland indefinitely.

troyvit 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I've been using KDE since before Wayland was a twinkle in RedHat's eye, so trust me when I say that Wayland has always come across as an afterthought from KDE. I'm not saying it was, but given all the issues KDE users have had with Wayland over the years it sure looked that way. If somebody I loved was having trouble with KDE the first thing I'd ask is if they had accidentally switched to Wayland (usually because of an upgrade). The majority of the time they'd check, sigh, and say yes. Switching back their problems would go away.

Reading this thread makes me want to try KDE/Wayland again, so probably on my next install I'll give it another shot. If it's still crap I think it's time to switch off of KDE.

ryao 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

I have had minimal problems with KDE 6 and Wayland, but I dislike the idea that both cannot co-exist. There is no reason to force people to Wayland. There are applications that benefit from Wayland’s tighter security model while there are applications that benefit from X11’s looser security model. If I make an appliance and I want to remotely debug, X11 is great since I can use X11vnc. If I want to run malicious software in a sandbox environment, Wayland is great since it can be properly isolated. They both have their uses. X11 is far more mature too and thus has fewer problems.

That said, I am probably preaching to the choir, as I think we are both moderates as far as the X11 vs Wayland debate is concerned.

Novosell 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I recently switched to hyprland but before that I was running a mixed HDR/SDR, mixed VRR/no VRR, mixed refresh rate setup with icc profiles applied under KDE wayland. No issues here tbh.