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Incitement to violence is... not dangerous, got it. That's basically what you're saying. You're completely ignoring u/dang's exhortation, among other things.

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tshaddox 5 days ago | parent [-]

No, I’m saying that “being a threat to democracy” is an actual thing. I’m saying that you can’t simultaneously say “calling someone a threat to democracy is inciting violence against them” and “what does being a threat to democracy actually mean?” as if it’s a meaningless accusation that can’t in fact be true.

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cryptonector 5 days ago | parent [-]

If you're going to say that someone is "a threat to democracy" then you should be specific. Extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence and all that. Charlie Kirk most certainly was not a threat to democracy. Many many loonies in this thread.

And by the way, if someone can be "a threat to democracy" then surely it's also possible that someone could commit electoral fraud. I.e., if you and others here are so upset at those who say that 2020 was rife with electoral fraud as to call them "threats to democracy", then surely those people are equally justified in saying that the electoral fraud they think took place was itself a threat to democracy (as were the people who might have perpetrated it).

You really can't have it both ways.

This way of "I'm justified, you're not" lies madness. Stop it.

	▲	tshaddox 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		"Threat to democracy" is definitely broad (but not "extraordinary"), and reasonable people can disagree with specific accusations. That's not my point. My point is simply that you can't simultaneously say "calling something a threat to democracy is an incitement of violence against them" and "the phrase 'threat to democracy' doesn't even mean anything." I personally think that the accusation is not "incitement of violence" and that the phrase does have a meaning, and thus an accusation can be either true or false. I think reasonable people can disagree on certain accusations, while other accusations cannot be reasonably disputed. As an aside, I have no idea where you came up with the "you and others here" business about electoral fraud. That's a wild thing to pull out of thin air.