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| ▲ | cryptonector 5 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| > what if that persuasion is not logic, but propaganda The answer to bad speech is more speech. If you refuse to do that then you are not convinced of being right -- you lose the argument when you resort to violence or justify resorting to violence over speech. |
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| ▲ | dgb23 5 days ago | parent [-] | | That’s a strawman. They didn’t say the answer is violence, but that calling someone a threat to democracy can be justified. | | |
| ▲ | cryptonector 5 days ago | parent [-] | | > They didn’t say the answer is violence, but that calling someone a threat to democracy can be justified. It had better be. All claims so far do not stand up to scrutiny -- they are all exaggerations, therefore they incite unjustified violence. | | |
| ▲ | ImPostingOnHN 4 days ago | parent [-] | | After evaluating the claims, I have concluded that they do, in fact stand up to scrutiny, and are not "all exaggerations". |
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| ▲ | eYrKEC2 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Then I guess you become a monarchist, like Curtis Yarvin. But of all things Charlie Kirk was not, first among them: He was not "a threat to democracy". |
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| ▲ | anigbrowl 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/charlie-kirk-calls-full-... idk, this doesn't sound very democratic to me | |
| ▲ | Cornbilly 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | infamouscow 4 days ago | parent [-] | | Unless you actually have the ability to deploy the military, it's genuinely stupid to leap to this conclusion. To be clear, this is not an insult or ad hominem. You have to actually be stupid to think random citizens can magically deploy the military just by saying so. This is personal moral failure on your part, no different than being a liar, thief, murderer. | | |
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| ▲ | alessandru 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | and you're just stupid. like reading is the first part before those other things. | | |
| ▲ | infamouscow 4 days ago | parent [-] | | Yarvin has written at length about how his monarchy vision isn't even possible within the USA today. A stronger statement is: you have to actually be stupid to think POTUS can magically deploy the military just by saying so. Virtually all of Yarvin's work is systematically breaking down all of the barriers even if one has that power. |
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| ▲ | the_gastropod 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] | | |
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| ▲ | swader999 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Then you answer that with more discourse. This is basic. |
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| ▲ | j-krieger 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| The loss of your way of life has little if anything to do with „democracy“. |
