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siliconc0w 5 days ago

It can be both simultaneously true that the current administration and its supporters are genuinely dangerous to our democracy and that political violence is not an acceptable way to effect social change.

Yes, it's true that lunatics on both sides may use their side's rhetoric as a call to action but often this isn't even the case and they're just hopelessly confused and mentally ill people. It'd be nice if we lived in a society where those people couldn't get guns or could get mental health treatment and it'd be nice if one side of this debate didn't weaponize these common sense ideas into identity politics but here we are.

j-krieger 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

If they really were such a danger why did the opposing party not try to save it with a democratically elected candidate instead of forcing an unpopular one down people’s throat?

unethical_ban 4 days ago | parent [-]

Because humans are fallible and egotistical and arrogant.

MisterMower a day ago | parent [-]

Alternatively, because they don’t believe their own rhetoric but think using it will be effective in getting their voters to turn out.

8note 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

politicial violence in this case will be quite effective in terms of later voting results - kirk was a good story teller who could get people enthusiastic about ideas. attempts to make it such that a similar event dont happen again will be much more likely to succeed now that hes dead than they were while he was alive

unethical_ban 5 days ago | parent [-]

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CallMeJim 5 days ago | parent [-]

If you can't bear to have a single good thing said about someone (anyone)... it may be time to consider whether you're taking it too far, and becoming someone who is working the political divisiveness that you abhor.

Take a break, walk outside, talk to some people... breathe.

unethical_ban 5 days ago | parent [-]

I have. I went for a long walk and I also talked to people today of varying opinions about the state of the country and of the event.

If you can link me a video of Kirk being thoughtful, kind, humble, and calling for peace and unity for all Americans and that we should work for a more accepting and loving democracy, I would be interested.

Not all people are good people. That doesn't justify political violence. It means we don't have to automatically speak kindly of people because they have passed.

fundad 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Is it bad to be a threat to democracy? Some people hold a point of view that there is something other than democracy serves their agenda better. I don't agree but it's actually a popular point of view. Are we supposed to be so afraid to point that out that we censor ourselves?

alxjrvs 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

> Some people hold a point of view that there is something other than democracy serves their agenda better.

Well, since they don't believe in democracy, I suppose they won't be too concerned when their opinions are discarded. What do they want, representation?

unethical_ban 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes