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andrewinardeer 5 days ago

It's been a few hours since the shooting and no suspect is in custody.

I wonder if he/she/they will ever be caught?

pjc50 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

There's going to be a colossal manhunt. Every possible technology will be mobilized. And it's very hard not to slip up on opsec. Unless the guy leaves the country very quickly, I would expect him to be caught (or killed resisting arrest, the common fate of mass shootings).

hinkley 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

When I was in college a kid used a computer in a lab to send a death thread against Bill Clinton to whotehouse.gov. I recall this in part because it was the lab I did most of my hours in both as an employee and because it was near my friend’s appt so we would study there. Dude sent it from a computer two rows back from where I usually sat.

Someone got up to use the bathroom and didn’t lock the machine. Dude thought he was being funny. But of course since he logged on to the adjacent machine he put himself on the suspect list and got caught. And in a hell of lot of trouble as I recall. I think he got expelled, too.

That was for a prank, not an assassination.

The thing some crime dramas don’t get right is that while circumstantial and tainted evidence cannot get you a conviction, it is absolutely possible for it to be used to prioritize manpower used to narrow you down to the top of the list.

There’s a thing in law enforcement called Parallel Construction. It can be used to protect confidential informants such as in undercover operations, but it can also be used to replace evidence that was found illegally, such as illegal recording or theft by a neighbor.

They just need to find something that follows process front to back. They don’t need to do that in order to figure out it was you in the first place.

Statistics say the spouse or partner almost always committed the murder. Even lacking any evidence they look really really hard at these people. It’s not illegal or unfair to do so. It’s triage. If I’m looking at Mrs Fredrickson’s murder, I’m not looking at any cold cases or spending effort on many other active cases. It’s unfortunately a numbers game.

programjames 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Note: it was an assassination, not a mass shooting. There was only one shot.

jimt1234 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

Pedantic, but...why is this an assassination and not just a murder? Because he was more than likely targeted? Tupac was targeted (for some street-level bullshit), but I don't think anyone would call his demise an "assassination".

OkayPhysicist 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

Assassinations are surprise killings of prominent individuals for political purposes. Targeted gang killings are an interesting case, because they are political within the context of intra- and inter-gang politics, but not viewed in that light in a broader context. If I was watching a documentary about two rival gangs, I probably wouldn't blink twice at someone referring to a hit on a rival leader as an assassination. In every day conversation, it would probably be weird, because the normal assumption is of the broader political sphere.

People are calling this an assassination because they are making the (probably reasonable) guess that the reason to shoot Charlie Kirk during a political speech is to make a political statement.

FinnKuhn 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Assassinations usually target public figures for political or ideological motives and public impact. So a subcategory of murders if you want.

brewdad 5 days ago | parent [-]

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dang 5 days ago | parent [-]

You've posted three abusive comments to this thread in quick succession. That's not ok, and we have to ban such accounts.

If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45203452 and stop doing this, we'd appreciate it.

(Your account is far from the only one posting abusively in this thread, and it's probably random that I happened to see your posts, but still - this is not ok.)

FinnKuhn 5 days ago | parent [-]

Thank you for removing this so quickly.

jimt1234 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Forgot about this: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PO9yyS367p4

pjc50 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

One shot so far. One possible outcome is the shooter has a target list, or is emboldened by success.

Some years ago: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/D.C._sniper_attacks

cman1444 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

Technically even that wouldn't be a "mass shooter". It would instead be a spree shooter or serial killer. But it's kind of beside the point.

programjames 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I wouldn't expect behaviors from mass shooters to carry over to serial killers.

another_twist 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It sounds similar to the plot of The F*ck it List.

greedo 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Vance Boelter...

throwmeaway222 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

very likely he will be caught by his friends or family- everyone that does something like this slips up. The guy that shot United Healthcare's CEO was outed partially by his own mom in fact.

qaq 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Depends on shooter's background. For state actors the easiest way to undermine US is to continue pushing towards more political violence in US via any and all means.

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the_real_cher 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There's already videos being released showing the shooter on a roof.

I have a feeling he'll get caught.

xdennis 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

At a public event like this there are hundreds of cameras. He will definitely be caught.

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aaron695 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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