Helsinki in Finland proves Vision Zero be possible [1] and a number of European countries have gun policies [2] that basically restrict carrying guns to hunters, people in proven danger of life, police officers and special security guards, in addition to gun sports who can own, but can't carry outside of dedicated venues.

Objectively, my position is both serious and not just realistic, but actually lived reality here in Europe. You are free to visit our continent whenever you want, I can only recommend it.

[1] https://www.dw.com/en/no-traffic-deaths-in-helsinki-finland-...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_of_gun_laws_by_nation

We've tried vision zero here (city in CA), and it's resulted in constant driver aggravation due to slowing down commute traffic, worse driving than before, and more traffic fatalities than before.

Helsinki may be a lucky coincidence. It doesn't prove it's possible everywhere.

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