When I do chores or shower or commute, I'm paying attention. It's not background noise. The people are saying interesting things about interesting subjects. If I wanted background noise I'd put on music.

Just because one person uses a podcast as background noise, doesn't mean everybody else is.

> If I wanted background noise I'd put on music.

My dude you’re using music wrong. Noise generators do exist - you can even pick a color for your noise!