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| ▲ | rcpt 6 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Wait. Are the pedestrian friendly cities battlegrounds with panhandlers with horrible schools, or are they wildly expensive luxury destinations that are in such high demand that only the 0.1% can live there? | | |
| ▲ | deltarholamda 6 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I'd think "it can be both" would be obvious, but clearly not. Rich people have been enjoying a different standard of life even in the midst of abject poverty since forever, but I guess this is news to some. | | |
| ▲ | rcpt 6 days ago | parent [-] | | So, OP is right. Despite the Nextdoor-tier rant about panhandlers the demand for walkable cities is huge. So huge that the super rich will pay handsomely and put up with panhandlers on top of it to live outside of car hell. | | |
| ▲ | FuriouslyAdrift 6 days ago | parent | next [-] | | At least one wealthy family in NYC I met doesn't use surface transport for much... they use helicopters or have things/people/shopping/restaurants brought to them. Had an experience where a store sent tailors, stylists, a manager, and a ton of inventory so that they could clothes shop while still in their home. Apparently, this was "normal". My shock was a source of great amusement to them. They did the same thing with restaurants, movies, concerts, even a play... the staff, etc. came to them. I have no idea just how wealthy they were (Brazilian who owned many businesses in oil and gas production) but I had never seen (or even heard of) such service. | | |
| ▲ | woodruffw 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I don’t think your wealthy acquaintances are representative. I’ve lived in NYC my entire life, and I know plenty of wealthy people. Most take the subway; a small but not insignificant minority drive or are driven everywhere. | | |
| ▲ | dullcrisp 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | You mean the skies aren’t filled with everyone riding helicopters? | | |
| ▲ | Nevermark 5 days ago | parent [-] | | The skies are so filled with copters that you can walk from building to building on their blades. |
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| ▲ | FuriouslyAdrift 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | I think we're talking about the difference between millionaires and billionaires (they are definitely billionaires). |
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| ▲ | II2II 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | This sounds more like and impoverished life than a wealthy one. (Clearly I am referring to the life experience, rather than how much money they have and how they spend it.) |
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| ▲ | deltarholamda 6 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | That's an amazingly reductive take on a complex issue, and it infers something which was not implied. At no point did I suggest that walkable cities were not in demand, only that the current state is less than ideal for a large number of people, to which your solution was "be rich". | | |
| ▲ | rcpt 5 days ago | parent [-] | | No my point is that if OP were wrong then these places would be cheap. |
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| ▲ | Bratmon 6 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | I don't understand why you're phrasing that like it's a dichotomy. It's clearly both. | | |
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| ▲ | rafram 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The UWS above 96th is quite affordable. Manhattan Valley is pretty, safe, and close to the park. | | |
| ▲ | deltarholamda 6 days ago | parent [-] | | According to Zillow they start at about a million for 2/1 apartments and go up from there. We have completely different definitions for affordable, unless $250K+/yr jobs are just falling out of the sky. | | |
| ▲ | sombrero_john 6 days ago | parent [-] | | Renting is perfectly fine. NYC has the strongest tenant protection laws in the country. | | |
| ▲ | kortilla 5 days ago | parent [-] | | Renting has to support the mortgage on that. The only difference between being able to afford a house and affording rent is having the capital for a down payment | | |
| ▲ | rafram 5 days ago | parent [-] | | That’s not really true. Renting is significantly more affordable than buying in NYC right now. I don’t know the exact reasons, but presumably most landlords bought a long time ago and refinanced when rates were low. |
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| ▲ | sombrero_john 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | There are many teachers, social workers, and bartenders living on the UWS. Hardly the top 0.1%. | |
| ▲ | dataflow 6 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | I imagined they thought you'd consider renting, not just buying. (It's still expensive, but not top-0.1% expensive.) |
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